FlightService SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 7:33 p.m.

A bout between two contenders requested by the audience.

In this corner, coming from it's crushing victory over our two time champion, weighing in at a scant 1320 lbs. The car that puts the burn in the turn.

Lotus Europa

VS

the Italian challenger, by fan request, weighing in at 2100 lbs, The car that wants to make dust before it rusts.

Lancia Scorpion.

FIGHT!!!

93EXCivic SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 7:35 p.m.

Europa for me.

Apexcarver SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 7:42 p.m.

to me, the europa is the ultimate toy..

Europa!

HappyAndy HalfDork
Feb. 8, 2012 7:43 p.m.

Lancia. Why? Because Lancia!

Woody SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 7:46 p.m.

EvanB SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 7:57 p.m.

Europa for sure, although I would really like a Scorpion.

Europa > Scorpion > 914 > X1/9

92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 8:01 p.m.

Scorpion for me.

I neglected to vote fiat in the last one hope it wasn't that close it mattered.

92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 8:02 p.m.

Swmbo also votes Scorpion if that counts.

FlightService SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 8:02 p.m.

It wasn't

Dr. Hess SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 8:15 p.m.

Raze SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 8:23 p.m.

I'd take the Lancia, but then I'd like to see a matchup of the X1/9 vs the Lancia, I'd say that's a more toe-to-toe bout...

DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 8:27 p.m.

Lancia

HappyAndy HalfDork
Feb. 8, 2012 8:39 p.m.

The scorpion is the primary ancestor of this awsomeness! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancia_037

Top that Lotus.

HappyAndy HalfDork
Feb. 8, 2012 8:45 p.m.
Raze wrote: I'd take the Lancia, but then I'd like to see a matchup of the X1/9 vs the Lancia, I'd say that's a more toe-to-toe bout...

The Scorpion, or Montecarlo as it was known in most other markets, was originally designed by FIAT as a big brother to the X 1/9, but it wound up as a Lancia instead.

Raze SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 8:47 p.m.
HappyAndy wrote:
Raze wrote: I'd take the Lancia, but then I'd like to see a matchup of the X1/9 vs the Lancia, I'd say that's a more toe-to-toe bout...

The Scorpion, or Montecarlo as it was known in most other markets, was originally designed by FIAT as a big brother to the X 1/9, but it wound up as a Lancia instead.

I know

turboswede SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 8:47 p.m.

The Lancia is just a bigger X-1/9. Literally, nearly the same underneath, just bigger and the Scorp's styling isn't as pretty as the sexy exxie's.

Given the choice, I'd have to break with Fiat and go with the Lotus.

Raze SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 8:50 p.m.
turboswede wrote: ...the Scorp's styling isn't as pretty as the sexy exxie's.

That's debatable...

darkbuddha Reader
Feb. 8, 2012 8:56 p.m.

(in my best Mr. Burns voice:) Excellent... excellent...

Well, you know where I stand (or sit)... Scorpion of course.

BTW...

HappyAndy wrote:

The scorpion the primary ancestor of this awsomeness! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancia_037

Top that Lotus.

Ding ding ding. Scorpion/Monte Carlo =>>> 037, so we might as well lump 'em together, right? ;)

Maroon92 SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 9:06 p.m.
DukeOfUndersteer wrote: Lancia

You're fired!

DMOD national champion FTW!

BAMF Reader
Feb. 8, 2012 9:15 p.m.

On track, I want a Europa. On the street, I'd prefer a Scorpion. I know I can fit in a Scorp comfortably. I've seen a Europa and am not sure I'd fit at all.

mad_machine SuperDork
Feb. 8, 2012 11:11 p.m.

would love me another scorp. with only 1803 of them ever imported into the US.. nobody knows what it is... not that anybody remembers Lancia anyway

wrek496 New Reader
Feb. 9, 2012 9:07 a.m.

Europa is so cute! Looks like you could trip over one. But I had never even seen a Scorpion. Lancia for me.

DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork
Feb. 9, 2012 9:12 a.m.
Maroon92 wrote:
DukeOfUndersteer wrote: Lancia

You're fired!

DMOD national champion FTW!

You're fired!!

David S. Wallens Editorial Director
Feb. 9, 2012 9:14 a.m.

By the way, there's a Europa buyer guide in the next issue of Classic Motorsports. Not a subscriber? You can request a free copy here: https://secure.ablesoftsolutions.com/pdmg/SecurePages/NewSub.aspx?pi=cms&o=cWE...

Personally, tough call. I remember seeing those Lancias at The Glen when I was in like sixth grade.

Coupefan Reader
Feb. 9, 2012 9:52 a.m.

While the 037 is certainly an evolution of the older Scorpio/monte, the latter will do just fine. As for the comparison with an X1/9, I've been chased by a Scorpion in the hills and let me tell you, both of these mid-engine beasts are pretty close. With the larger engine bay, the scorpion takes advantage of the larger displacement DOHC from the factory. Maybe that's the only advantage I see over the smaller displacement SOHC in the X1/9. But the a gain, I have an imagination and vision....

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