Javelin SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 10:29 a.m.

The 2013 CX-5 was revealed, and boy is it nice.

2.0L SkyActiv engine w/6-speed SkyActiv trans (auto or manual!) = 155HP / 148TQ / 40MPG () Even better would be if they bring the SkyD to the US (and currently they are saying they will) = 2.2L w/ the same transmissions and 173HP / 310TQ (!!!) with "40+ MPG" (reports say close to 50) and no urine tank to pass US emissions! Did I mention the weight is "3300 Lbs"?

Full drive report: http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/02/2013-mazda-cx-5-quick-spin-road-test/

However, the best part to me is the looks. This thing actually looks really, really sharp!

The best part about the design? Maserati liked it so much they built their own!!!!

93EXCivic SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 10:49 a.m.

Now if they just put that engine in something worth buying...

Javelin SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 10:52 a.m.

Well the CX-5 should be on the next 3 platform, so I imagine the 3 is coming out pretty soon after. What I'm hoping for is a SkyG Mazda5 with the M6 trans and this new styling.

tuna55 SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 10:54 a.m.

No kidding. great, another BMW X3 wannabe. Can they please just make it a wagon? Imagine how good the gas mileage would be without that extra two feet of frontal area. Not to mention, if I buy a SUVish thing, it had better have three rows of seats

mrhappy Reader
Sept. 14, 2011 10:55 a.m.

Finally a good looking new Mazda.

dculberson HalfDork
Sept. 14, 2011 11:02 a.m.

3300lbs isn't bad, really! But 155hp at 2.0L doesn't seem that amazing to me. Wasn't the Miata putting out 140hp from 1.8L in 1999? And then 166hp from 2.0L in 2006? We've had a lot of engine progress, why no hp gains?

Javelin SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 11:10 a.m.
dculberson wrote: 3300lbs isn't bad, really! But 155hp at 2.0L doesn't seem that amazing to me. Wasn't the Miata putting out 140hp from 1.8L in 1999? And then 166hp from 2.0L in 2006? We've had a lot of engine progress, why no hp gains?

Because this engine is getting close to twice the MPG at a much lower Federal emissions level.

nocones HalfDork
Sept. 14, 2011 11:18 a.m.

It looks like the engine gets 40mpg in the 3. I would imagine this will get a still impressive 32-34 HWY.

I still don't understand why I can't buy a modern Safe Geo-Metro like car that gets 50mpg out of some sweet 1.2L clean buring Direct Injection gas engine.

ReverendDexter SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 11:31 a.m.
nocones wrote: It looks like the engine gets 40mpg in the 3. I would imagine this will get a still impressive 32-34 HWY. I still don't understand why I can't buy a modern Safe Geo-Metro like car that gets 50mpg out of some sweet 1.2L clean buring Direct Injection gas engine.

Because you're on the only one here in the US that would buy it. I would never shell out new-car money for anything that small because the only commutes I would do with something like that are things that I really should just be doing on a bicycle. It's scary enough trying to merge onto the freeway with an uphill onramp in our Mazda5, and I don't consider that to be excessively underpowered with it's 2.3L.

Appleseed SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 11:58 a.m.

I read the title as MX-5, and theN saw the 3,300lbs. I almost crapped my pants.

Knurled Dork
Sept. 14, 2011 12:12 p.m.
nocones wrote: It looks like the engine gets 40mpg in the 3. I would imagine this will get a still impressive 32-34 HWY. I still don't understand why I can't buy a modern Safe Geo-Metro like car that gets 50mpg out of some sweet 1.2L clean buring Direct Injection gas engine.

There's a skazillion Smarts here.

dculberson HalfDork
Sept. 14, 2011 12:19 p.m.
Javelin wrote: Because this engine is getting close to twice the MPG at a much lower Federal emissions level.

And that's a very good point. But we've become spoiled by a near continuous increase in power, efficiency, and emissions. Eff compromise!!

Joshua
Joshua HalfDork
Sept. 14, 2011 12:24 p.m.
dculberson wrote: 3300lbs isn't bad, really! But 155hp at 2.0L doesn't seem that amazing to me. Wasn't the Miata putting out 140hp from 1.8L in 1999? And then 166hp from 2.0L in 2006? We've had a lot of engine progress, why no hp gains?

It's not a sportscar so they probably don't care much about hp. Torque will achieve better mileage so they are probably more interested in that.

T.J. SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 1:08 p.m.

In reply to ReverendDexter:

I have fun driving my Mini....all 1300# and less than 100 hp. It is significantly smaller than a Geo Metro. I really do not find it scary at all to drive.

That new CX-5 looks ok I guess, but it still an SUV, thus really has no appeal to me. I'd like to see what the redesigned 3 looks like as the current ones should've gotten some designers and managers fired for it ever seeing the light of day.

93EXCivic SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 1:15 p.m.
T.J. wrote: In reply to ReverendDexter: I have fun driving my Mini....all 1300# and less than 100 hp. It is significantly smaller than a Geo Metro. I really do not find it scary at all to drive. That new CX-5 looks ok I guess, but it still an SUV, thus really has no appeal to me. I'd like to see what the redesigned 3 looks like as the current ones should've gotten some designers and managers fired for it ever seeing the light of day.

I am pretty sure the designers were watching too many of those stupid japanese cartoons.

rotard Reader
Sept. 14, 2011 1:17 p.m.

If they're getting these numbers with the cute-ute, imagine what they can get with the new 3. You guys should buy the E36 M3 out of this so they will build a car I'm interested in.

Raze Dork
Sept. 14, 2011 1:30 p.m.

more dumb cars for my comrades...

ThePhranc New Reader
Sept. 14, 2011 1:35 p.m.

I just want a Mazda 3 based coup. Not all of us want or need 4 doors, large cargo area or command seating dangit.

DaveEstey HalfDork
Sept. 14, 2011 1:52 p.m.

The Mazda3 with the Skyactiv engine will get 40 mpg (and only the sedan is rated that high), not the CX5.

joey48442 SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 2:18 p.m.
T.J. wrote: In reply to ReverendDexter: I have fun driving my Mini....all 1300# and less than 100 hp. It is significantly smaller than a Geo Metro. I really do not find it scary at all to drive. That new CX-5 looks ok I guess, but it still an SUV, thus really has no appeal to me. I'd like to see what the redesigned 3 looks like as the current ones should've gotten some designers and managers fired for it ever seeing the light of day.

That's a pretty good power to weight ratio. Thats like my escort making over 200 hp...

Joey

carguy123 SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 2:35 p.m.

Line up all the SUVs, paint them silver and you'd have trouble telling them apart.

T.J. SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 3:05 p.m.

In reply to joey48442:

My hp is more than likely around 70 or so. Never had the car on a dyno. It will keep up with traffic and definitiely can get out of its own way.

Javelin SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 3:59 p.m.
DaveEstey wrote: The Mazda3 with the Skyactiv engine will get 40 mpg (and only the sedan is rated that high), not the CX5.

Did you not read the provided link to article? Mazda clearly stated that the CX-5 will get 40MPG and the Diesel even better. If the CUV can get 40, the 3 will be doing better just on weight/aero alone, let alone tuning and final drives.

nocones HalfDork
Sept. 14, 2011 4:06 p.m.

In the Mazda3, this engine is good for 155 horsepower and 148 pound-feet of torque while achieving 40 miles per gallon. We expect a power nudge in this application (160-165 hp and around 155 lb-ft), and while mpg will undoubtedly fall a bit, Mazda pledges its CX-5 will vanquish the Chevrolet Equinox and its class-leading 32 mile per gallon highway rating.

They estimate the diesel may get 40+

RexSeven SuperDork
Sept. 14, 2011 4:24 p.m.

For everyone who cares, the SkyActiv-G 2.0L engine will next find its way into the current-gen Mazda3, which also gets a minor facelift, i.e. the ROFLMAOface...

...gets toned down to a LOLface:

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