If we're going to dream, here's the treatment that I'd like to do on my Miata:
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Nov. 12, 2009 11:01 a.m. kreb Dork
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Nov. 12, 2009 11:24 a.m. John Brown MegaDork
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Nov. 12, 2009 11:27 a.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork
^OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
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Nov. 12, 2009 11:30 a.m. John Brown MegaDork
MS Paint, Audi TT roof on a Miata.
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Nov. 12, 2009 12:04 p.m. kreb Dork
Aerodynamically, I'd think that black one would flow beter than either a factory hardtop, or the BMW style treatment.
I like the idea of having enough storage room for a real road trip, and being able to move the rollbar back a bit for headroom.
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Nov. 12, 2009 12:12 p.m. GameboyRMH UltraDork
Looks nice!
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Nov. 12, 2009 12:29 p.m. John Brown MegaDork
That design would result in a hatchback, no spare tire would allow for groceries.
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Nov. 12, 2009 12:43 p.m. mkiisupra New Reader
STOP posting such tasty pictures of various 'fastback' Miaters!
I have spent the past week on a mental project of Miata fastback, but want to start another Datsun Roadster project first. I have seen one fastback top for the old Datsun, but it was a bit ungainly (some similar lines to the autoconexion one.)
Sooooo, without the navel gazing as some new posters have us viewing with crazy 'what if?' projects, how about a Miata fastback project with a cap of $4k (maybe up to $5k, but I like to shoot low and not be too surprised as the 'reality monster' sets in).
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Running donor car - only one stall for project.
Pocket-style flares Aftermarket suspension/sways/struts LSD Fastback top Rollbar Wheels/Tires (can be rotas/XXR's cheapies)Whadda ya think? Sounds like a bit much for only $4k, but you are the GRM-types.
Enjoy the diversion, Eric G
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Nov. 12, 2009 10:17 p.m. kcbhiw Reader
You guys are killing me. About a month ago while cranked on coffee traversing the interstates, my mind wandered and convinced me "hey, that's a great idea". Oh boy. I'm planning on reviving the former Challenge Miata as a coupe for this year's (hopefully) Challenge, flairs included. This thread only enhances the need.
I have found the perfect roof-line to graft into the car and whole donors can be had for $500. The Escort ZX2. The dimensions of various aspects including the invisible B-pillar are nearly spot on.
I'll make it fit.
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Nov. 13, 2009 8:25 a.m. Clay Reader
Kevin, definitely post a link to a build thread. I love following your builds!
I can't direct link to them, but there are more pics of a fastback Miata in this thread
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Nov. 13, 2009 8:49 a.m. alfadriver HalfDork
Keith wrote:
I never liked the semi-production coupe (Japan only, 2003 or so) as much as that one-off.
More pictures of various Miata coupes here.
I also see a lot of Escort ZX2 in this design. Seems like a perfect donor to make a real, structural top.
Eric
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Nov. 13, 2009 10:40 a.m. Keith PowerDork
I think you could use the rear window from the ZX2, but I don't think the top shape is right for the Miata. A profile comparison would be interesting. Let's see what Photoshop can do.
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Nov. 13, 2009 11:12 a.m. John Brown MegaDork
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Nov. 13, 2009 11:13 a.m. John Brown MegaDork
There is a length issue between the door end and the base of the roof.
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Nov. 13, 2009 11:17 a.m. Keith PowerDork
Hmm. It's tough to match the scale, but I think I got it. I don't know how graceful it would be from other angles but it might work. You'd have a real letterbox for a trunk opening, as it looks more like a fastback than a coupe. It's got that slightly hunched BMW M Coupe look too for kreb
Obviously a quick and dirty 'shop job. I tried an NA as well, I think the NB looked a bit better.
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Nov. 13, 2009 11:25 a.m. Keith PowerDork
Based on wheelbase (98.4 vs 89.2), the ZX2 is considerably larger when you overlay the cars. The NB sketch is fiction, the roof is waaay too long. The trunk lid height is higher as well.
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Nov. 13, 2009 11:50 a.m. John Brown MegaDork
Back to the Audi TT inspired miscreant
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Nov. 13, 2009 11:52 a.m. John Brown MegaDork
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Nov. 13, 2009 11:55 a.m. alfadriver HalfDork
I think you would be kind of stuck making the B-pillar match the glass frame, since the window up and down is based on the door. So if one was careful, you could move the entire top forward a few in, and still make it work. But that would be a real top as opposed to the glass top.
In all manners, one will have to chop and channel the top. You just have to be creative enough to keep it looking good. By chopping and channelling well, you can move the rear glass forward enough to 1) make the trunk lid useable, and 2) to be a little more graceful.
Really, need Andy to get out here- considering how he made a bug look like a killer hot rod.
All in all, it's a REALLY good photo shop concept!
Eric
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Nov. 13, 2009 11:56 a.m. alfadriver HalfDork
John Brown wrote:
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Dead ringer for a TT. I always thought they looked like squashed Bugs.
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Nov. 13, 2009 11:58 a.m. Adrian_Thompson Reader
I looked at both a Miata and ZX2 at lunch time. The ZX2 is considerably larger and importantly wider. I don't know if even the rear window would work. I love the idea though.
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Nov. 13, 2009 11:58 a.m. Keith PowerDork
Dead ringer? Really?
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Nov. 13, 2009 12:10 p.m. alfadriver HalfDork
Keith wrote:
Dead ringer? Really?
I've never liked the TT, so I never really give it a lot of credit.....
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Nov. 13, 2009 12:12 p.m. Capt Slow Reader
looks more like a panamerica to me
