RexSeven
RexSeven UltraDork
7/20/13 2:18 a.m.

Sorry if some of you are at half-mast thinking of a 505 turbo wagon, but it's just a manual turbo sedan that's stuck in third. That said, it's still pretty sharp-looking:

http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/3911215378.html

I also found two diesel transmissions for sale not too far away. From what I can tell the diesel and the gas turbo used the same transmission (so did some Jeep YJs, but the gearing is different):

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pts/3932889426.html

I've been reading some of the past threads on the Pug 505 and saw that there are special tools involved with certain repairs. If everything else on the car checks out, then are any of those special tools needed for a transmission and clutch change (might as well do the clutch while I'm under there)? Any specifics to watch out for? How are the 505s when equipped with winter tires?

DaveEstey
DaveEstey UltraDork
7/20/13 7:43 a.m.

There used to be one that raced with us. Over the years I think he hit just about every tree on the hill , but the car wouldn't quit. Nails pale in toughness when compared.

DaveEstey
DaveEstey UltraDork
7/20/13 7:46 a.m.

Can't hotlink from my site:

http://www.daveestey.com/Cars/SCCNH-Ascutney-Hillclimb-May/17199459_V2p3Mt#!i=1304578770&k=gs4njLR&lb=1&s=O

Toyman01
Toyman01 PowerDork
7/20/13 7:48 a.m.

I loved those things when I was 15. I still like the looks, but the mechanics make me shiver in fear.

Can you even get parts for them?

sethmeister4
sethmeister4 HalfDork
7/20/13 7:50 a.m.

Gorgeous, I hope you get it!

SlickDizzy
SlickDizzy UberDork
7/20/13 8:12 a.m.

Sourcing parts is a bitch, but if you have a good shop manual and an internet connection it can be done.

Start hanging out on 505turbo.com and do some looking around, it'll be a big help.

clutchsmoke
clutchsmoke HalfDork
7/20/13 8:37 a.m.

It was in one of the other Peugeot 505 threads, but someone on here is a big fan of them and said parts weren't too bad to get.

I would imagine the 505 would do well in the snow with proper tires. Probably handles similar (or better) than an E30.

93gsxturbo
93gsxturbo Dork
7/20/13 8:51 a.m.

I grew up driving a 1984 Peugeot 505 STi Turbo Diesel 5 speed. It was a glorious car and I would love another one as a fun toy.

RexSeven
RexSeven UltraDork
7/20/13 1:54 p.m.

It's still available, and apparently even driveable. Something broke within the transmission because the shift linkage is OK and the shifter moves about freely. Swapping the transmission, according to the owner, is an 8-hour job due to having to remove the torque tube and possibly the rear differential housing. Good thing I would not need it right away!

RexSeven
RexSeven UltraDork
7/22/13 4:13 p.m.

I spoke to a Peugeot parts supplier from Canada, who said the diesel transmission has a different input shaft when compared to the gasoline transmission. I can't help but wonder how much it would cost to have the current transmission repaired or if a shop can transfer the input shaft from one to the other. Anyone have any rough estimates?

SlickDizzy
SlickDizzy UberDork
7/22/13 7:27 p.m.

Hard to estimate when it's not even known what's wrong. It could be possible that a section of the linkage just fell apart ($) or maybe it broke a shift fork internally ($$$).

Spitsix
Spitsix Reader
7/22/13 7:33 p.m.

We were the factory team in Endurance racing during the early to mid 80's

Spitsix
Spitsix Reader
7/22/13 9:30 p.m.

Earlier car

SlickDizzy
SlickDizzy UberDork
7/22/13 11:00 p.m.

That is AWESOME.

RexSeven
RexSeven UltraDork
7/22/13 11:54 p.m.

I think it's internal. The owner says he checked the linkage and says they appear to be OK.

In reply to SpitSix:

That's so cool! You wouldn't happen to have any spare parts lying around, would you?

EvanB
EvanB PowerDork
7/23/13 7:08 a.m.

On my 405 when I checked the linkage it appeared to be OK. After more investigation one of the links was totally gone.

The 505 will have a different type of linkage being RWD but it is possible that it may take a more in-depth look to see if the linkage is good or bad.

slefain
slefain UltraDork
7/23/13 7:29 a.m.
93gsxturbo wrote: I grew up driving a 1984 Peugeot 505 STi Turbo Diesel 5 speed. It was a glorious car and I would love another one as a fun toy.

I had a 1985 model, same drivetrain. I loved that car and I'd own another in a second. It was just fantastic on the highway. Slow as dirt from a stop, but man that turbo diesel would run effortlessly at above legal speeds.

Spitsix
Spitsix Reader
7/23/13 9:29 p.m.

In reply to RexSeven:

Nope - just a lot of good memories!

Tyler H
Tyler H SuperDork
7/24/13 1:54 p.m.

7-valved shocks, stock. Very simple cars. I had one briefly. Watch for rust.

fidelity101
fidelity101 Dork
7/24/13 2:04 p.m.
Tyler H wrote: 7-valved shocks, stock. Very simple cars. I had one briefly. Watch for rust.

That was almost a haiku.

RexSeven
RexSeven UltraDork
7/28/13 6:05 p.m.

Here's my assessment on 505Turbo.com:

http://www.505turbo.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2650-prepurchase-questions-1986-505-turbo/?p=19945

Looking for input from yous guys as well.

EvanB
EvanB PowerDork
7/28/13 6:10 p.m.

The milky oil on the cap is probably just from condensation while sitting. I'm sure it hasn't been driven much since the trans is stuck in third.

My 405 had some milky oil under the cap that was cured by some hard driving while keeping it at temp for awhile.

RexSeven
RexSeven UltraDork
7/29/13 9:39 a.m.

Bump for great justice! Also for any other opinions.

EvanB
EvanB PowerDork
7/29/13 9:42 a.m.

Just buy it already.

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
7/29/13 9:53 a.m.

I agree Evan!

Get on with it!

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