Is there a kit to drop a aluminum M series V8 in a 2002??? Has it been done? Could it be done? Should it be done, in a track only car? Any advice? Is it folly or would it be one bad MOFO? Somebody stop me before it to late!
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June 22, 2010 11:15 a.m. jamesalanray New Reader
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June 22, 2010 11:25 a.m. ClemSparks SuperDork
I have no useful answers to your questions. But I wanted to add that This...Sounds...AWESOME!
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June 22, 2010 11:28 a.m. AutoXR Reader
Too nose heavy esp for a "track car"
it would be badass , but I don't think you would get what you thought out of it.
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June 22, 2010 11:31 a.m. Cone_Junky Reader
Isn't the V8 actually lighter than the I6?
Maybe I'm thinking of another car. Either way, this needs to happen.
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June 22, 2010 11:36 a.m. JeepinMatt HalfDork
Cone_Junky wrote:
Isn't the V8 actually lighter than the I6?
Maybe I'm thinking of another car. Either way, this needs to happen.
It probably is lighter than an iron I-6, but I thought the 2002 only came with a four. The guy that runs the shop where I get my Bimmer parts is finishing up a wicked 2002. Fiberglass panels, a built S14 pushing out at least 300 hp, coilovers all around. Can't wait to see it on the track.
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June 22, 2010 11:36 a.m. DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork
with enough beer, any swap is possible...
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June 22, 2010 11:44 a.m. grimmelshanks Reader
s14 ftw
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June 22, 2010 12:14 p.m. z31maniac Dork
Kit? No.
But the BMW V8s are heavy, big, not tuner friendly compared to an LS1. IF I were going to swap a V8 into a 2002 it'd be an LS1.
But for really nice track awesomeness, I'd swap a built S14 into the car. Or maybe a turbo'd M20/M42.
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June 22, 2010 12:20 p.m. jamesalanray New Reader
i missed a shift and blew the s14 and nobody would touch it for less that 10 grand.........the alum block v8 is suppose to be the same weight as the six....i am scared of another s14!
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June 22, 2010 1:01 p.m. oldtin HalfDork
bmw engine model #s, weights and power
The weights listed seem light (bare block???) but gives you a comparison (m20 is listed as 16# heavier than s14, m60 is 87 lbs heavier than s14...maybe same weight as m30??). I like the thought of the s14, but for all out thrashing without cubic $$$ to throw at it, I think I'd lean towards a boosted m20.
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June 22, 2010 1:07 p.m. JeepinMatt HalfDork
I love the sound of a straight six. Try and find an S50 or something. Heavy, sure, but powerful right out of the box and not as expensive. And the sound.
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June 22, 2010 1:25 p.m. AutoXR Reader
Those weights listed for the BMW V8's can't be right.
the LS1 in the back of our corvair was 408Lb with JBA headers , no AC compressor or PS pump... It's 1" shorter then the 215 Olds V8 it replaced which tipped the scales @ 330 LB.
Conversley the Northstar I put in my fiero was pushing 500 Lb , all those new fangeled cams and BS add a lot of weight.
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June 22, 2010 1:35 p.m. Chris_V SuperDork
AutoXR wrote:
Those weights listed for the BMW V8's can't be right.
the LS1 in the back of our corvair was 408Lb with JBA headers , no AC compressor or PS pump... It's 1" shorter then the 215 Olds V8 it replaced which tipped the scales @ 330 LB.
Conversley the Northstar I put in my fiero was pushing 500 Lb , all those new fangeled cams and BS add a lot of weight.
I'm inclined to agree. The Lexus aluminum block DOHC 4.0 V8 is about 400 lbs, and I really don't see the dimensionally larger BMW M62 that's in my 740iL being lighter. And while I know the BMW M70 V12 is pretty light (I've seen it succesfully used in a number of kit cars with no real weight penalty), there's no WAY it's under 400lbs.
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June 22, 2010 1:52 p.m. DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork
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June 22, 2010 2:12 p.m. Opus Dork
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June 22, 2010 2:17 p.m. Opus Dork
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June 22, 2010 2:23 p.m. oldtin HalfDork
In reply to Chris_V:
I don't think those weights are right, or they didn't list on what basis... it does give some relation to weights though m10 vs m20 vs ....
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June 22, 2010 2:28 p.m. stuart in mn SuperDork
I'm pretty sure it's been done by someone in europe, I recall seeing photos online somewhere.
