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  • ArtOfRuin

    Feb. 27, 2009 7:08 p.m. ArtOfRuin HalfDork

    One of the rags got their hands on the Genesis Coupe 3.8L V-6 Track model and this is what they had to say:

    http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0905_2010_hyundai_genesis_coupe_3_8...

    The Good:
    -Costs less than the 370Z and Mustang GT
    -The build quality and structural rigidity is high
    -Good brakes
    -Mostly nice ride quality
    -Predictable limits with flat cornering
    -Traction and stability control can be turned off
    -Uses 87 octane

    The Bad:
    -0-60, 1/4 mile, 60-0 braking distance, and handling stats are a hair off the 370Z's and Mustang's times
    -Engine doesn't feel like the 306hp advertised
    -Rubbery shifter and linkage (the manumatic actually weighs a little less and is slightly faster in the 1/4 mile)
    -Somewhat "gluey" steering (whatever that means)

    In Short: Good first effort in need of some polishing.

    Just thought I'd post it for you guys since Hyundai is pushing it heavily towards our types. Rhys Millen sings its praises in a video, but I guess he's contratually obligated to- The Genesis is his new steed for Formula D. I'll reserve final judgement for GRM's review of the R-Spec, but it sounds like anyone considering this car might want to wait a year or two for Hyundai to work out the bugs.

  • loudes13

    Feb. 27, 2009 11:37 p.m. loudes13 New Reader

    I noticed the engine is mounted too far fwd. There had to 6" between the back of the engine and the firewall. Half the engine hangs past the front wheel bearings. Much more than z car or ohers. I figure weight distribution should be equal or worse than a mustang. Honestly for same $$ I'd prefer a mustang (or even a camaro if $$ was the same). Suspension details could sway my opinion if my gut instinct is wrong.

  • neon4891

    Feb. 27, 2009 11:44 p.m. neon4891 SuperDork

    Limerock Green 2.0T R-Spec, Please

  • mad_machine

    Feb. 28, 2009 4:37 a.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    I have always been a big fan of Hyundai. I wish them well with the coupe', it looks to be quite a step forwards for them.

    If I were in the market for a new car, I would be shopping with them

  • ZOOMiata

    Feb. 28, 2009 5:56 a.m. ZOOMiata Dork

    How much does it weigh? That's the question I haven't seen the answer to as of yet.

  • Datsun1500

    Feb. 28, 2009 6:58 a.m. Datsun1500 HalfDork

    If you follow this link it shows 3439 pounds

    http://tinyurl.com/bfk635

  • joey48442

    Feb. 28, 2009 9:01 a.m. joey48442 SuperDork

    Datsun1500 wrote:

    If you follow this link it shows 3439 pounds

    http://tinyurl.com/bfk635

    Holy crap! Almost 3500 pounds? Does it come with Stewie to follow it around with a tuba???

    Joey

  • P71

    Feb. 28, 2009 9:04 a.m. P71 Dork

    That's only 300Lbs lighter than the Mustang and Z and 500 than the Camaro will be. That's also for the full-spec V6 one, I'm sure the 2.0T R-Spec will be less and with better distribution.

    I'm still excited about this car!

  • Schmidlap

    Feb. 28, 2009 9:08 a.m. Schmidlap New Reader

    I'm really curious about the acceleration times reported for this car. Edmunds.com/insideline just put up a track test of the car and said 0-60 was 6.4 and the quarter mile time was 14.5, mostly due to a powertrain protection 'feature' that cuts the torque the engine will produce for 3 seconds after you shift if you got anywhere near the rev limiter in the previous gear. Hyundai acknowledged the feature and said that they may reduce it to 1 second in the future, but for now it's staying at 3 seconds.

    From the article it sounds like this is only present in the V6 model, so the turbo four might be a much more fun choice.

    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826?tid=edmunds....

    Bob

  • joey48442

    Feb. 28, 2009 9:32 a.m. joey48442 SuperDork

    P71 wrote:

    That's only 300Lbs lighter than the Mustang and Z and 500 than the Camaro will be. That's also for the full-spec V6 one, I'm sure the 2.0T R-Spec will be less and with better distribution.

    I'm still excited about this car!

    That's redoculous. None of those cars should be that heavy.

    Joey

  • Racer1ab

    Feb. 28, 2009 9:46 a.m. Racer1ab New Reader

    P71 wrote:

    That's only 300Lbs lighter than the Mustang and Z and 500 than the Camaro will be. That's also for the full-spec V6 one, I'm sure the 2.0T R-Spec will be less and with better distribution.

    I'm still excited about this car!

    The 2010 Mustang GT weighs in at 3545 lbs.

    It's also drop dead sexy to boot.

  • sachilles

    Feb. 28, 2009 10:13 a.m. sachilles Reader

    I think the 2.0t will be the popular motor option. I have a feeling it will be quite tunable.

    Regardless, it a reasonable car for the price, and a big step forward for Hyundai.

  • Appleseed

    March 1, 2009 5:57 p.m. Appleseed Reader

    I'd like to believe that the extra 6" inches is for the V-8.

    Whats the expected cost of the 4 cylinder turbo? I really want to like this car.

  • neon4891

    March 1, 2009 6:43 p.m. neon4891 SuperDork

    $22k base, $24k R-spec, IIRC

  • ReverendDexter

    March 1, 2009 7:12 p.m. ReverendDexter Reader

    sachilles wrote:

    I think the 2.0t will be the popular motor option. I have a feeling it will be quite tunable.

    Regardless, it a reasonable car for the price, and a big step forward for Hyundai.

    From what I understand, the turbo 2.0 is just a detuned, RWD configuration version of the motor that's in the Evo X (the one that replaced the 4G63t that I can't remember the name of). My source on that is pretty weak, though, so take it as you will.

  • Scott Lear

    March 2, 2009 9:39 a.m. Scott Lear Club Editor

    Hrm, bore and stroke on both engines is 86x86, and there's a lot of buzz that they're using the same block; the 4B1 World Engine was co-developed by Chrysler, Hyundai and Mitsubishi.

    I think that the argument that they're similar may have legs.

    Best info I could find: http://genesisforums.org/index.php?pageid=techdocs1

  • Gearhead_42

    March 2, 2009 10:23 a.m. Gearhead_42 Dork

    ArtOfRuin wrote:

    The Bad:
    -0-60, 1/4 mile, 60-0 braking distance, and handling stats are a hair off the 370Z's and Mustang's times
    -Engine doesn't feel like the 306hp advertised
    -Rubbery shifter and linkage (the manumatic actually weighs a little less and is slightly faster in the 1/4 mile)
    -Somewhat "gluey" steering (whatever that means)

    Coming from Motor Trend, I'd consider that a positively glowing review, considering it's not a Honda or a BMW...

    And, remember it's cheaper than that Mustang or 370Z... so you can't have them "for the same money".

    Just sayin'

  • Xceler8x

    March 2, 2009 12:31 p.m. Xceler8x HalfDork

    I've seen Mazdaspeed3's going for under $22 - 23k. If you have to have a RWD coupe the Hyundai is your car tho.

    I'm very curious about the 2.0 liter 4. I'll bet the hop parts for it will make it faster than the V6.

    New pony car for the kids?

  • ArtOfRuin

    March 2, 2009 3:59 p.m. ArtOfRuin HalfDork

    Scott Lear wrote:

    Hrm, bore and stroke on both engines is 86x86, and there's a lot of buzz that they're using the same block; the 4B1 World Engine was co-developed by Chrysler, Hyundai and Mitsubishi.

    I think that the argument that they're similar may have legs.

    Best info I could find: http://genesisforums.org/index.php?pageid=techdocs1

    Yep, that's the GEMA engine. Mitsu calls it the 4B1x, Hyundai calls it the Theta, and Chrysler calls it the World Engine. I read somewhere that the Genesis version of the GEMA can handle up to 29psi safely.

 

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