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  • Twin_Cam

    Sept. 23, 2008 11:13 a.m. Twin_Cam Dork

    mtn wrote:

    They're missing the Chevy Prism? and Toyota Carolla. I don't think that there was any difference between the two.

    Except people who bought the Toyotas used because they thought the Toyotas were a better car, when in fact the Chevy was the same reliable Toyota with a $3K less resale value

  • 16vCorey

    Sept. 23, 2008 11:45 a.m. 16vCorey Dork

    Twin_Cam wrote:

    mtn wrote:

    They're missing the Chevy Prism? and Toyota Carolla. I don't think that there was any difference between the two.

    Except people who bought the Toyotas used because they thought the Toyotas were a better car, when in fact the Chevy was the same reliable Toyota with a $3K less resale value

    A friend of mine back in high school (or shortly after) was shopping for a car, and really wanted a Toyota, because everyone that she knew with a Toyota had no problems with it. Her dad, however, was a die hard, buy american-style conservative, and was helping her buy it, so an import was out of the question. I saw her about a month later, and she was driving a Prizm. The first thing I said was, "I see you finally talked your dad into buying a Toyota!". She had no idea what I was talking about and assured me that it was a GM product, until I popped the hood and showed her that everything under there says Toyota. She was pleasantly surprised, and her dad had no idea.

  • fiat22turbo

    Sept. 23, 2008 12:31 p.m. fiat22turbo SuperDork

    She should have taken all of the badges off and put Corolla badges on it, just to mess with people.

  • Jensenman

    Sept. 23, 2008 1:17 p.m. Jensenman UltimaDork

    I worked for the 'Yota dealer during the Corolla/Prizm era, the main differences were badging and the Prizm used a Delco radio and battery. And it was cheaper by a bunch. GM even had a TV ad pointing that out, which had to piss Toyota's management off something fierce.

    They were built by NUMMI, New United Motor Manufacturing Inc. Before the Prizm came out, the last Nova was built in the same plant off of a FWD Corolla platform.

  • 16vCorey

    Sept. 23, 2008 1:23 p.m. 16vCorey Dork

    Jensenman wrote:

    I worked for the 'Yota dealer during the Corolla/Prizm era, the main differences were badging and the Prizm used a Delco radio and battery. And it was cheaper by a bunch. GM even had a TV ad pointing that out, which had to piss Toyota's management off something fierce.

    They were built by NUMMI, New United Motor Manufacturing Inc. Before the Prizm came out, the last Nova was built in the same plant off of a FWD Corolla platform.

    Yeah, my neighbors bought a new Prizm in '90, because it was cheaper than the Corolla, and they knew it was the same car. They also found out that parts were usually cheaper through Toyota, so they'd say they had a Corolla and get them at the Toyota dealer.

  • noisycricket

    Sept. 23, 2008 6:17 p.m. noisycricket New Reader

    The Vibe has less resale value than the Matrix.

    Why? Self-fulfilling prophecy leading Matrices to be better vehicles on the used market, or just consumer expectations?

  • internetautomart

    Sept. 23, 2008 6:42 p.m. internetautomart SuperDork

    the late corolla/prizms actually took different doors IIRC. The prizm wrapped up into the roof whereas the corolla didn't.
    The es300 (90s version) shared little to nothing with the camry cosmetically.
    There are valid reasons to buy one over the other. Some people care about what is on the outside of a car as well as what is under the hood.
    Heck I drive an I30, which is essentially a maxima. The I30 has a few things the max didn't get, including better looks.

  • Datsun1500

    Sept. 23, 2008 8:46 p.m. Datsun1500 HalfDork

    Twin_Cam wrote:

    Except people who bought the Toyotas used because they thought the Toyotas were a better car, when in fact the Chevy was the same reliable Toyota with a $3K less resale value

    Actually at one point the Toyotas were selling at auctions cheaper than the Chevys. The buyers were convinced they were able to get them cheaper and ended up bidding them up......

  • Jay

    Sept. 24, 2008 5:37 a.m. Jay HalfDork

    What's wrong with this picture?

  • Wally

    Sept. 24, 2008 7:50 a.m. Wally SuperDork

    The driver is on the wrong side. Where can I get some JFM Cavalier goodies?

    EDIT: I'm kinda sorry I asked. There is a TRD body kit and spring set, and someone really is draging some of this stuff back to the states.

    http://www.street-line.net/jdm/toy_cav/toy_cav_1.htm

    I think I'm getting the patch

  • Twin_Cam

    Sept. 24, 2008 10:16 a.m. Twin_Cam Dork

    noisycricket wrote:

    The Vibe has less resale value than the Matrix.

    Why? Self-fulfilling prophecy leading Matrices to be better vehicles on the used market, or just consumer expectations?

    Same idea, one has a Pontiac badge, one has a Toyota badge.

    Reason #429 why you should always make work to make your cars reliable above all else, it only takes a couple to completely ruin your company's image.

    And that picture of the Cavyota/Toyalier is just weird.

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