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  • maroon92

    Feb. 7, 2009 10:22 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork

    while trolling E-bay for parts for our BABE/LeMons/Challenge 1993 Mustang 2.3, I found a set of springs for a 2004 Mach 1. the post says that the springs will fit "any mustang from 1979-2004 except IRS Cobras". there was another listing for shocks that states the same. both were posted by a mustang dismantler in Georgia...I have actually been to this place, and all they have is mustangs.

    I know that they are the same "basic chassis", but is this true? Can I really put Mach 1 springs on my 93 fox convertible?

  • noisycricket

    Feb. 7, 2009 10:32 p.m. noisycricket Reader

    Yup.

  • Apexcarver

    Feb. 7, 2009 10:36 p.m. Apexcarver SuperDork

    I am about 85% sure you can, I have a set of BBK springs that were on my 97 cobra (that one fatigued and the set was replaced with H&R) I can measure next weekend if you need.

  • neon4891

    Feb. 7, 2009 10:37 p.m. neon4891 SuperDork

    up till the '05 redesign, it was all still fox based

  • maroon92

    Feb. 7, 2009 10:46 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork

    Apex, how badly fatigued were the BBK's? We may be lookin for a set of used springs...

  • P71

    Feb. 7, 2009 10:57 p.m. P71 Dork

    79-04 were practically identical underneath.

  • maroon92

    Feb. 7, 2009 10:59 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork

    oh, yeah.....thanks everybody for the quick answers. I love this place...now I know why I hang out here.

  • Apexcarver

    Feb. 7, 2009 11:05 p.m. Apexcarver SuperDork

    maroon92 wrote:

    Apex, how badly fatigued were the BBK's? We may be lookin for a set of used springs...

    accident fatigued

    the drivers front sat an inch or so lower then the pass front, so they are probly worthless for you.

    rears are fine though.

    Dont know what the rates were, but not anything really useful for racing.

    my advice is if you can find them get something 750lb-in or more for the front H&R race, H&R super race, Steeda competition springs, eibach racekit, ford motorsport R,... the mustang needs alot of spring to counteract the camber loss from the geometry and body roll (add a big sway too, im running 35mm front with H&R race on my cobra)

    http://www.miracerros.com/mustang/springs_calcs.htm

  • maroon92

    Feb. 7, 2009 11:14 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork

    While H&R, Eibach, Steeda, or Ford motorsport would be great...they = $...LeMons is kinda a budget race....we epitomize that budget.

    I found a set of 1996 cobra front and rears that I bid on...hopefully they will be mine in about 3 days.

  • Apexcarver

    Feb. 7, 2009 11:18 p.m. Apexcarver SuperDork

    I realize that, but just wanted to let you know the general direction that will help.

  • maroon92

    Feb. 7, 2009 11:38 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork

    I acknowledge that, and thank you very much for the info, and the link... if the car makes it through LeMons alive, I may take advantage of it in the future, and it definitely points me in the right direction.

    If you had to recommend a sway bar on the cheap (dumpster diving), what is best? Cobra, Bullitt/Mach, GT? Personally I like a little oversteer, however I will be driving with some Noobs, and predictability is probably best, so should I shoot for a stiffer rear bar for some understeer?

  • iceracer

    Feb. 8, 2009 11:24 a.m. iceracer Reader

    Stiffer rear bar will promote oversteer or reduce understeer.

  • maroon92

    Feb. 8, 2009 12:12 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork

    sorry, Freudian slip....I meant FRONT bar....

  • Apexcarver

    Feb. 8, 2009 12:19 p.m. Apexcarver SuperDork

    http://www.miracerros.com/mustang/sway2.htm

    I dont think an SN95 bar will fit a fox, but i may be wrong (besides, you could likely fabricate a bracket to make something work)

    the principle behind putting a big front bar on is that as the car leans you loose camber. IE, you make the suspension work better by letting it work less. sounds backwards, but it works.

  • maroon92

    Feb. 8, 2009 2:40 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork

    okay, you have all been so helpful up to this point, if I may ask one more question, then I will disappear....for a while at least.

    I have two sets 10 hole rims from a T-bird...15 X 6...what tire would you recommend? keep in mind, this is a 17 hour race, so longevity is important, but I still want a competitive tire. we will have 2 sets for the race.

    we also have the 14 x 5 "polymold" rims that came stock on the car. we might use these for some used tires to drive BABE on, and as double secret backups for LeMons

 
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