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  • pigeon

    Aug. 10, 2011 6:54 p.m. pigeon Dork

    Of course, part of the fun of purchasing a used car is discovering what the previous owners have done to the car and, if a PPI isn't done, exactly what you've bought. I've spent some quality time with my recently acquired E46 M3 and learned some things good and bad. The good: poly bushings where they count on an E46 - rear trailing arm bushings (RTABs) and front control arm bushings (FCABs). No worries about ever having to change these parts, unlike the factory rubber pieces that tend to wear out, sometimes in as little as 20k miles with hard driving. I don't have one, but it's prewired for a V1. The bad: the oil pan gasket and the power steering pressure hose both leak, discovered by the shop that did my track day inspection today. I'm having him do the oil pan gasket - 5.5 hours of labor to replace a $50 part. I'll do the power steering hose, as it's an easy swap out and I wanted to replace the reservoir anyway since it's also the filter for the PS system - unfortunately the hose is a $175 part. When I pulled the front bumper to repair the damage I did to it where I scraped it the 3rd day I had it I found that someone snapped an aluminum bracket that holds some of the underbody plastics in place, $23 for a new one. The battery was bad and had to be replaced since it wouldn't hold a charge.

    I've now got a list of maintenance and small repairs to do. I already put Redline MTL into the transmission and it shifts better, but the stuff that drained out looked very good. It got new ATE Typ 200 fluid in the brakes and clutch last weekend, and will be re-bled again before I hit the track in 2 weeks. The diff fluid will likely get a change also this winter. Cosmetically, I need to finish repairing the front bumper - a little filler and paint and it will be an invisible repair. The previous owner had a custom hitch on the car, part of which apparently involved a plate held in by 3 bolts in what would be the spare tire well - when I pulled everything out to vacuum the loose dog food and other schmutz out of the trunk I found 3 holes to the ground where the bolts were. A quick spray with some Rustoleum to halt the little bit of surface rust that was there and some nylon plugs have made the trunk watertight again. The rear deck has faded from black to blue; I picked up a can of vinyl and fabric dye for when I get time to pull it out and re-dye it black again. The sunroof sunshade is loose, a common E46 malady apparently (though my last E46 went 168k miles with no problem at all there...). I hope to pull the sunroof and fix that before my track days coming up, as that sliding back and forth may be a tad distracting. There's missing plastic fasteners here and there that hold much of the underbody plastics in place too, not so much that anything's flopping around but just enough to annoy me - they will be replaced. The shocks aren't leaking and are still good but they are nasty crusty with surface rust and will be replaced this winter when I plan to upgrade the suspension to a stiffer setup.

    Overall I'm quite pleased with the condition of the car and how it drives, and drooling in anticipation of my first track experience with it. The up front money for these minor repairs is annoying but I plan to recoup at least some of it from the dealer I bought it from.

  • Timeormoney

    Aug. 10, 2011 7:22 p.m. Timeormoney Reader

    pigeon wrote: ...before I hit the track in 2 weeks.... Cosmetically, I need to finish repairing the front bumper - a little filler and paint and it will be an invisible repair.
    Don't taunt the track gods...repair this AFTER the track day.

  • Ian F

    Aug. 10, 2011 7:34 p.m. Ian F SuperDork

    Didn't you mention in another thread you paid $16k for this car? With that in mind, I would consider what you've described to be expected.

  • docwyte

    Aug. 11, 2011 9:53 a.m. docwyte Reader

    Too bad you didn't get the custom tow hitch. None are commercially available, a friend and I made one for my old E46 M3 and it wasn't a small undertaking...

  • pigeon

    Aug. 11, 2011 12:12 p.m. pigeon Dork

    docwyte wrote:

    Too bad you didn't get the custom tow hitch. None are commercially available, a friend and I made one for my old E46 M3 and it wasn't a small undertaking...

    It's going to NC as a prototype for more to be built and I can have it after that if I want it, o just don't know when.

  • mad_machine

    Aug. 11, 2011 12:52 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    that's nice. That would be great for a lot of M3 owners who do track days

  • pigeon

    Aug. 11, 2011 1:09 p.m. pigeon Dork

    So, I just spoke to the selling dealer and they're going to do the oil pan gasket and power steering hose and reimburse me for the battery. Yay!

  • Giant Purple Snorklewacker

    Aug. 11, 2011 1:15 p.m. Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork

    While he has the oil pan down... make sure to put a baffle in to keep from starving in high G turns once you really get cooking. There will come a day when you have enough grip and experience to make it sound like a sewing machine after a few hard laps around the Glen otherwise. You only do that a few times before it sounds like a small explosion.

  • amg_rx7

    Aug. 11, 2011 1:20 p.m. amg_rx7 HalfDork

    Have them retighten/retorque the oil pressure sensor. Apparently they work themselves out and start spewing oil like clockwork around the 60-70k mile mark. Fine piece of german marketing that it is....

    Also, double check that you used the correct trans oil. I understand most manual BMW transmissions actually require ATF not MTL. My E36 did.

  • Giant Purple Snorklewacker

    Aug. 11, 2011 1:30 p.m. Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork

    amg_rx7 wrote:

    Also, double check that you used the correct trans oil. I understand most manual BMW transmissions actually require ATF not MTL. My E36 did.

    For track work the MTL will work better even if it is a tad notchy when cold.

  • Aug. 11, 2011 1:31 p.m. dj06482 HalfDork

    I've always been wondering what the E46 M3 was like to live with, so I'm looking forward to your updates...

  • pigeon

    Aug. 11, 2011 3:45 p.m. pigeon Dork

    Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:

    While he has the oil pan down... make sure to put a baffle in to keep from starving in high G turns once you really get cooking. There will come a day when you have enough grip and experience to make it sound like a sewing machine after a few hard laps around the Glen otherwise. You only do that a few times before it sounds like a small explosion.

    I can't seem to find a baffle kit online for the S54 - plenty of choices for the M54 though.

  • pigeon

    Aug. 11, 2011 3:48 p.m. pigeon Dork

    Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:

    amg_rx7 wrote:

    Also, double check that you used the correct trans oil. I understand most manual BMW transmissions actually require ATF not MTL. My E36 did.

    For track work the MTL will work better even if it is a tad notchy when cold.

    I prefer MTL over ATF - it is a tad notchy when cold but butter when warm. I had it in my old E46 328i for 60k or so miles with absolutely no issues. Besides, for the E46 M3 the factory fill and recommended fill is a 75W80 GL4 oil, which is exactly what MTL is.

  • docwyte

    Aug. 11, 2011 4:24 p.m. docwyte Reader

    The E46 M3 pan is the same as the E36 M3 LTW pan, no baffles needed. Have them tack weld or safety wire the oil pump nut on.

    Good to hear a jig will be made from that hitch. I tried to get the dimensions of it from Holly's son and he just ignored me.

    So 2 days with a welder, grinder, plasma cutter and some tubing and I had one of my own.

    No drilling into the body necessary with mine either. I think it's still for sale if you want it. I used it to pull a tire trailer to all my events, worked great!

  • rjones33

    Aug. 12, 2011 4:14 p.m. rjones33 New Reader

    I've been pleasantly surprised around how livable my m3 has been. I bought it at 42k and now I've had it for 3 years and 35k. No track but some autocross miles.

    Expenses so far:

    Planned -Inspection two (valve adjustment, plugs, all fluids and filters) $800 -Battery $90

    Wear -RTABs $200 -Koni yellows ($1g with labor and alignment) -Battery $90 -Pads and rotors (cant remember, $500?)

    Unplanned -Climate control unit $600 (ouch)

    So it's cost me about $4k over that time, $1k of that is in labor, and only $600 was unplanned.

    I guess the ~$1800 in wear items is what stands out here on the "unlivable" side of the scale.

  • mad_machine

    Aug. 12, 2011 4:16 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    that's not bad for near supercar performance though.

  • pigeon

    Aug. 12, 2011 9:07 p.m. pigeon Dork

    35k miles and no tires? Mine came with nearly new RE11s on it and I expect to replace them next year (but I have 6 days at the Glen planned between now and Oct.).

  • rjones33

    Aug. 15, 2011 10:06 a.m. rjones33 New Reader

    Ah, yeah, tires. Oops. So, another $900. Mine had the stock contis on it and I replaced them with sumitomo htr z iii's. These were the "cheap" alternative but I like them more than the contis.

  • ZOO

    Aug. 15, 2011 1:16 p.m. ZOO SuperDork

    pigeon wrote:

    35k miles and no tires? Mine came with nearly new RE11s on it and I expect to replace them next year (but I have 6 days at the Glen planned between now and Oct.).

    I'm starting to think of tires like tanlks of gas -- simply a consumable .

  • pigeon

    Aug. 15, 2011 1:27 p.m. pigeon Dork

    ZOO wrote:

    pigeon wrote:

    35k miles and no tires? Mine came with nearly new RE11s on it and I expect to replace them next year (but I have 6 days at the Glen planned between now and Oct.).

    I'm starting to think of tires like tanlks of gas -- simply a consumable .

    Absolutely, and with the price of gas these days they are becoming the cheaper comsumable!

  • pigeon

    Sept. 12, 2011 7:39 p.m. pigeon Dork

    Time for another update.

    Oil pan gasket leak - dealer wouldn't replace, only tighten the bolts (good way to strip them) so I paid my mechanic $550 to do it. Back under the car this weekend and there's still a leak, from a common small gasket that fails and is an easy repair

    I did my first track days with it 2 weeks ago at Watkins Glen and the car performed flawlessly, the only issue was I used the front brakes nearly completely up. They were KFP Magnum Gold pads and worked well enough but the front wear was just too much. I also developed a soft pedal that no amount of bleeding would fix, I later found significant pad taper on the passenger front pads that explained probably 80% of it.

    There's now a set of PFC 06 pads on it front and rear, and once they get a bit of heat in them it's like dropping anchor. Expensive but worth it hopefully; I'll be back at WGI in 2 weeks and we'll see if I can modulate them with street tires (RE11s).

    I scored a set of used Schroth Quick Fit 4-point harnesses off Craigslist in Denver (yay global C-list searches!) and they arrived today. I started to install them and wound up pulling out the entire rear interior of the car to dye the rear deck black again. I'm typing this between dye applications and will have it all back together tomorrow.

    Nothing else to report - and I consider that a good thing!

 
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