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  • Nov. 2, 2011 8:23 p.m. z31maniac SuperDork

    Curious if this is an "absolute necessity" for track car?

    It's a 1.6, has tons of recent maintenance and seems to run great.

    I'm gathering up all my parts this winter and doing my prep this winter, just wanted to know if this is considered essential.

  • Duke

    Nov. 2, 2011 8:28 p.m. Duke SuperDork

    The PO installed one on my car for track days and said it would hold 185 all session long.

    I think I may have air in the system now, because the temp seems to be flapping around a bit recently.

  • Nov. 2, 2011 8:44 p.m. mistanfo SuperDork

    Stock, not really, but it certainly wouldn't hurt. Especially if you want to up the power in the future.

  • Keith

    Nov. 2, 2011 9:17 p.m. Keith SuperDork

    Concentrate on the rest of the car first. For example, a factory plastic radiator is a time bomb on a track car by this point. The reroute really works to make the cooling system more efficient, but it shouldn't be used to compensate for other problems.

  • Nov. 2, 2011 9:22 p.m. z31maniac SuperDork

    Stock radiator, but only about 15k miles on it according to records.

    That's good to know though. That money nearly buys bushings/sways.

  • Dashpot

    Nov. 3, 2011 7:05 a.m. Dashpot Reader

    Duke wrote:

    The PO installed one on my car for track days and said it would hold 185 all session long.

    I think I may have air in the system now, because the temp seems to be flapping around a bit recently.

    Which reroute kit? If it's the M-Tuned you'll need to drill a ~1/16" hole in the thermostat or temps will flop all over the place with no pilot flow. Fall/winter conditions make it worse too. Not sure if/when they started supplying them pre-drilled but there's only one way to check.

  • Duke

    Nov. 3, 2011 11:48 a.m. Duke SuperDork

    Well, I believe it is a homebrew kit, but it does normally exhibit the "temp gauge looks scary for a minute or two until the thermostat opens" behaviour on cold startup. Normally it's pretty stable after that first opening, but lately it's been edging higher than I like during use and then suddenly dropping lower than the set point. I will look into the thermostat, though, and drill a small bypass hole if it doesn't have one.

    Thanks.

  • unevolved

    Nov. 3, 2011 12:25 p.m. unevolved Dork

    Yep, I wouldn't worry about it a bit. The driving school I worked at a few summers back had a fleet of 7 NAs, and every one of them had bone stock cooling systems. Those things were beaten harder than a rented mule, regardless of whether it was 30F out, or 115F out. Never had one overheat on track.

  • Tom Heath

    Nov. 3, 2011 3:35 p.m. Tom Heath Web Manager

    Even with the turbo and full Florida heat it usually takes at least 20 minutes of flogging to start cooking the car. For a naturally aspirated 1.6 (That's a N/A-NA to you) you should not have much trouble with track work.

  • Woody

    Nov. 3, 2011 4:20 p.m. Woody SuperDork

    I never had an overheating problem with a Miata with a stock radiator on the track. In fact, I ran a modified thermostat like the Spec Miata guys do for a while, and the car wouldn't even warm up to a reasonable operating temperature, so I went back to a stock one.

  • Keith

    Nov. 3, 2011 5:20 p.m. Keith SuperDork

    On the flip side, I've seen 1.6 Miatas have trouble staying cool on the street. I'm not sure what it is, but their cooling systems are a bit weaker than the 1.8 ones, stock. It's not a huge problem and a car with a cooling system in good nick without any restrictions in the mouth of the car should be fine.

  • Woody

    Nov. 3, 2011 7:20 p.m. Woody SuperDork

    My cars were 1.8s, so that may have been a factor. Plus, I wasn't running nose to tail the whole time.

  • Nov. 3, 2011 8:16 p.m. z31maniac SuperDork

    The first session of the year usually comes in late-March here. So temps usually only getting up into the 50-60s, so that should be a good initial test.

    Like I said, just wanted to make sure it wasn't one of those things that was crucial.

 
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