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What if we read the article yesterday? Is that cheating?
Crazy bracing on the axle housing, is that a square exhaust?
mazdeuce wrote: What if we read the article yesterday? Is that cheating?
Just dawned on me what you are talking about.
Looks very similar to my Alfa, sort of. But I know it's only kinda related.
mazdeuce wrote: What if we read the article yesterday? Is that cheating?
i too read the article yesterday but wont give it away for anyone who wants to figure it out
Almost everything in that picture is fabricated. I can't tell what it is since there's nothing original left.It's a tarmac rally car from the looks of it.Name on the photo says "Paddy", so I'll guess it's an Irish tarmac car.
The rockers seem to line up with the wheel wells, so no flares. That eliminates MkII Escort and Vauxhall Chevette, my two favourite vintage rally cars.
I was thinking something truckish or suvish.
I want to know what's up with all those rod ends on a solid axle.
Looks like adjustable camber & toe, which is very trick on a stick.
I'm going to need more information and pictures of this. It makes the hamster wheels in my head turn full speed.
I cheated and found the answer. All I can say is 'Whaaaaat?!?'
I'm still trying to figure out how that is not Grassroots---- looks right up our alley. $$ does not dictate if something is "Grassroots" or not.
Yep, no idea that is what it was. There are some things happening there that aren't even close to what I was expecting.
I have to agree with Joe, it is awesome and seems like it didn't just get the easy button for power and driveline solutions. It is expensive, sure, but I would also venture to say that it is worth it.
Edit: after cheating, I have to say that thing is one big bastard.
I gave up and went looking. Not what I was expecting given the rear axle. Still trying to figure out what those bottom links do, maybe warp the axle for toe or camber adjustment? Or, are they simply tension rods. The Escorts Atlas axles usually are reinforced with a welded section, not rods.Neat anyway.
Looks like a rally car. Lots of axle bracing to keep the housing from failing.
Square exhaust?? I wonder how that flows compared to tubular.
Not much clearance in the drive tunnel. I wonder if the drive shaft could hit. That could get kind of exciting. Spherical rod ends shouldn't let it move unless it gets tweaked coming off a jump. I think I'd like a little more space.
I like the sway bar adjustments as well, except for the setscrew. I would think that would create a stress riser on the bar.
No clue on the car, other than to say I'd love to take it for a spin. Very cool.
Wild guess: Jeep Commanche?
Very cool car. I wouldn't call it grassroots though, because it has a purpose-built race engine. If it were a production-based engine I might give it a pass.
Edit: Also, if I understand correctly, the engine was custom-designed for this car? If so, that's about as far from grassroots as you can get.
Edit2: Also, CF dash and door cards. That's just pissing money away.
Toyman01 wrote: Square exhaust?? I wonder how that flows compared to tubular.
Really, it should flow the same. As long as the area of the pipe is equal to that of round tube. It looks like they did a decent job of radiusing the bends so that shouldnt affect it too horribly either.
I'm guessing the exhaust is simply flat on the bottom for clearance or to keep it tight to the body, a common rally-car trick. If that's what that thing is!
Thinkkker wrote:Toyman01 wrote: Square exhaust?? I wonder how that flows compared to tubular.Really, it should flow the same. As long as the area of the pipe is equal to that of round tube. It looks like they did a decent job of radiusing the bends so that shouldnt affect it too horribly either.
The only inherent advantage of round exhaust is better heat retention, but the difference in power from that is tiny.
It would be nearly impossible to hurt that exhaust system. I can't imagine it's durability is worth the weight penalty but...
Pretty sure that's just a Watts linkage setup
GameboyRMH wrote: The only inherent advantage of round exhaust is better heat retention, but the difference in power from that is tiny.
And weight; for the same diameter, round is 22% lighter
kb58 wrote: Pretty sure that's just a Watts linkage setup
But it's not. There are separate rods & joints running out to the hubs. I'm going with barrel cut splines, camber & toe adjustment in an old Trans AM/GT-1 style arrangement.
This car does indeed have a watts link setup, the rocker is on the back of the diff. It's better to put the rocker on the chassis and the bar ends on the axle to keep the roll center from moving with suspension movement though.
The two lateral rods ahead of the rear axle seem to be toe control rods.
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