Well, the title says it all. Nissan is pulling out of the NAIAS also along with the Chicago show. Won't be worth going soon. I was looking forward to seeing both the 370Z and the Cube. I guess L.A, gets it all. Lousy economy.
Link: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/24/nissan-pulls-out-of-detroit-and-chicago-auto-sh...
It is starting to sound like the only ones who will be there is the ones who can not afford it.
This will have to be a no-miss year. It could easily be the last. GM, Ford and Chrysler take up half of the exibit space.
I find the logic behind the EXCUSE, "we don't have anything new to show"...to be a bit feeble.
That was part of the excuse being used in an article on AutoBlog that "announced" this. If that truely is/was the case, and I don't think it is, it would make almost as much sense as a beauty pageant contestant saying "sorry, I'm not entering your contest, I entered one last week and have nothing to wear that hasn't been seen already". As far as using the "we feel we can better allocate our marketing dollars" EXCUSE. Sorry, but not showing up for that reason is pretty much a slap in the face to any potential customers in the mid-west section of the country.
"What if they had a car show, and nobody came?"
So you are mad they arent going to park a few cars in the middle of a giant car show so people can drive hundreds of miles to see them? I would personally prefer they send one to each car mag, put one in every major city showroom, develop a very detailed website, etc..
Or charge less for the car and sell more.
WOW! No 370Z at the Chicago car show this year.
That really blows that they blew their wad.....(I thought that meant something else.....)
"You may recall that Nissan blew its wad, so to speak, at last week's LA Auto Show where it unveiled the new 370Z, Cube and Infiniti G37 Convertible. With nothing left to show save for a commercial van concept called the NV2500, Nissan felt its marketing money could be better spent elsewhere."
Another nail in Detroit's coffin...
MrJoshua wrote:So you are mad they arent going to park a few cars in the middle of a giant car show so people can drive hundreds of miles to see them? I would personally prefer they send one to each car mag, put one in every major city showroom, develop a very detailed website, etc..
That's a little bit like asking " Why go to a concert or sporting event when you can stay at home and listen to it on the radio or watch it on tv"? It's the whole experience like tailgaiting at a big game.Try going to a Nissan dealer and finding a GT-R sitting in the showroom that they will let you look at. And typically a manufacturer like Nissan will have multiple cars in different trim levels and colors like the 370Z that you can sit in and touch and just try it on for size. There is no comparison between a dealership and/or magazine and a first class auto show.
Nissan is doing a tour with the new 370Z http://www.followthenissanz.com/index.html Starting in the West Coast and traveling East then South.
Good luck
I like going to the Chicago Auto Show. I don't like the $17.00 parking or $11.00 entry fee, but where else can I see all the new cars? And I have seen the following over the years:
Challenger, Camaro, Mugen Civic, the mini when it came out. Last year I got to see the GT-R.
I saw the Dodge Viper when it was a concept, and I loved it when the Miata first came out. I was shocked!!!
Shoot, I even got to see the Ford EXP when it was an EXPerimental car.
I hate to sound like a variation of that " first they came for..." line, because Nissan isn't the only car company not at Detroit this year. Someday soon, they will decide not to even have the Detroit show, because the "Big 2.5" can't afford it....and no is all that interested anymore. It will be the return of those dark days that we had in the '70s, when a performance car was marketted with more stripes and decals than horsepower. But while I sound mad, I'm mostly mad about the excuses they are using to justify this move.
As far as it being "good enough" that they send a car to every mag and letting the journos knock themselves out....am I the only person who feels auto mags leave some readers/customers out in the cold by ONLY testing the hottest versions of cars.
When I was a kid, I all but begged my Dad to take us around to all the car dealers the first or second week of September so we could see the new cars. Why didn't I just wait to see them after they were sold? I love cars, I don't want to JUST read about them.
integraguy wrote:When I was a kid, I all but begged my Dad to take us around to all the car dealers the first or second week of September so we could see the new cars. Why didn't I just wait to see them after they were sold? I love cars, I don't want to JUST read about them.
Exactly.
I'm not getting the same doom and gloom about people pulling out of the Detroit show. It's just a sign that the show's not worth attending as far as the manufacturers are concerned, instead they'll concentrate on the bigger and better ones.
And what if the "bigger and better ones" turn out to be in Paris ... or Tokyo?
Last weekend we had an auto show here in Memphis, and like most auto shows it was intended as much to push sales as to "delight" car enthusiasts. I worked all 3 days so I didn't go, as I don't care to lose sleep and fight crowds. But I guess I feel that this becomes some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy: "we aren't going to have any cars at auto X, cause no one is really interested, and no one is interested because there are never any good cars at auto show X".
This sort of reminds me of the response many car companies give for why they don't incorporate a feature into a car, or even offer a certain type of car....."there's no interest in it, so why should we waste the money?"
How many of you have been to a car show?
Keith wrote:I'm not getting the same doom and gloom about people pulling out of the Detroit show. It's just a sign that the show's not worth attending as far as the manufacturers are concerned, instead they'll concentrate on the bigger and better ones.
Detroit is losing their reputation as the auto capitol of the US. This is supposed to be the big one. But with The D being number 3 on the crime list, and the mayor going to jail for multiple felonies, and unemployment over 9%...
Detroit is dying a slow death, and there is no end in sight.
I haven't been to a car show in years. Not new cars, anyhow. It's simply a matter of geography.
I've seen car shows stumbling along in the past, though. Manufacturers drop out,so it's viewed as less important, so more drop out - it's a matter of critical mass. Looks like Detroit is losing it.
LA is one of the major ones, right? Paris and Tokyo, definitely. I don't know what other big ones there are in the US simply because they're not important to me, but all I'm seeing here is that the Detroit one is waning.
There was a scheduling change also. I remember hearing something about last year LA's show was moved out of it's traditional December date and moved to November, There was something about it expecting to get more international press and attendance since it is not crowded around the busy Christmas calander. Detroit's show is traditionally the second week of Jan.
I remember last year or two hearing about LA trying to lure business (big announcements) away from Detroit's show. It must be working.
I hope someone comes to the New York show. I could use some more garage posters
