David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
12/20/17 7:20 a.m.


Photos by Perry Bennett

The rules for SCCA’s Classic American Muscle autocross program fit on a single sheet of paper. The goal was to keep things neat and simple. If it’s a rear-wheel-drive American car, then it’s probably welcome.

As a result, the class has attracted both rookies and veterans. Despite being the reigning national champion, Brett Madsen almost falls into that first camp.

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mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
12/20/17 7:23 a.m.

That car is bonkers and I love it. 

 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
12/20/17 8:36 a.m.

Is 870lbs of lead a typo? 

STM317
STM317 Dork
12/20/17 8:39 a.m.

CAM is the truth and the light.

Also, how did that guy get a New Edge car down to almost 2300lbs?! Based on the pics, I can see that he's added a heavy torque arm, sub-frame connectors, a Watts link, super wide wheels/tires, lots of bodywork/aero aids and it still took 870lb of ballast to make the 3200lb minimum weight?

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
12/20/17 8:44 a.m.

If it's possible to get a new edge car to 2300 I might need to rethink a few things.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
12/20/17 8:46 a.m.

Agreed. I have a hard time believing any SN95 with an interior weighs 2330 lbs.  87 lbs I'd believe.

Regardless, it's still a really cool car.  I pass a black New Edge car on wide tires during my commute... it gives me bad ideas.

Jaynen
Jaynen SuperDork
12/20/17 8:52 a.m.

Brett is pretty active on the SD region Facebook stuff could probably ask him

Autolex
Autolex Dork
12/20/17 9:18 a.m.

870lb of lead is like a 16" cube....

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
12/20/17 9:42 a.m.
Ian F said:

Agreed. I have a hard time believing any SN95 with an interior weighs 2330 lbs.  87 lbs I'd believe.

Regardless, it's still a really cool car.  I pass a black New Edge car on wide tires during my commute... it gives me bad ideas.

Give in to your bad ideas!

NickD
NickD UltraDork
12/20/17 9:46 a.m.
Ian F said:

Agreed. I have a hard time believing any SN95 with an interior weighs 2330 lbs.  87 lbs I'd believe.

 

Yeah, Vaughn Gittin Jr.'s competition SN197 was something like 2700lbs and that had a body that was pretty much entirely thin fiberglass with no internal structure, no interior at all, no trunk floor, no metal structure ahead of the front shock towers and behind the rear shock towers

NEALSMO
NEALSMO UberDork
12/20/17 10:16 a.m.

It doesn't have a "full" interior under all those panels, but pretty sure he only added 87 lbs to the spare tire well.

It was impressive watching him develop his car and his skills over the years. I remember battling with him in SM regionally back in 2013.  He is wicked fast now.  His current motor build is borderline insane.  Can't wait to see him tear it up in Time Attack once he gets it going again.

He's currently destroying the competition in his Ecoboost Mustang DD.

Mad_Ratel
Mad_Ratel Dork
12/20/17 10:29 a.m.

dream goals for the thunderbird?... hmmm

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
12/20/17 10:35 a.m.

I need those front wheels. 

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
12/20/17 2:17 p.m.

seems a shame to do that to a rare car

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
12/20/17 2:51 p.m.

I don't think in general that ROUSH cars are considered particularly collectible. 

 

Jaynen
Jaynen SuperDork
12/20/17 3:23 p.m.

Brett replied to me on FB, the car did get down to 2300 but was not really usable that way. His usable weight is around 2700 and he did have to melt ballast into the framerails etc.

GordonD
GordonD New Reader
12/20/17 5:00 p.m.

In reply to z31maniac :on my screen it says 87 lbs

 

Jaynen
Jaynen SuperDork
12/20/17 5:20 p.m.
GordonD said:

In reply to z31maniac :on my screen it says 87 lbs

 

Yeah they fixed the typo

BFMRGTX
BFMRGTX New Reader
12/20/17 10:10 p.m.

Beautiful car!  I wish I had a Mustang.

NickD
NickD UltraDork
12/21/17 6:43 a.m.
z31maniac said:

I don't think in general that ROUSH cars are considered particularly collectible. 

 

Mustang guys tend to go gaga over any special or limited-edition or tuner variant, so Roush's are considered collectible, moreso than a regular GT at least. Plus this is only 1 of 2 Roush cars built in that color.

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltimaDork
12/21/17 7:23 a.m.
NickD said:
z31maniac said:

I don't think in general that ROUSH cars are considered particularly collectible. 

 

Mustang guys tend to go gaga over any special or limited-edition or tuner variant, so Roush's are considered collectible, moreso than a regular GT at least. Plus this is only 1 of 2 Roush cars built in that color.

Not really. There are some people that do, but the majority at this time don’t care. It’s another “tuner” car. If ford had produced it themselves, it might be a different story.

Weight, I’m impressed but not really. I know a body in white with just the minimalist to make nhra complaint still needed over 500# of ballast to make a 3200# with driver limit. That car still had power windows, steel fenders, steel doors, etc. I’m sure if I wanted to with the available lightweight parts and some creative ideas can get damn close to a 2200#, just not cheap.

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