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  • mad_machine

    Dec. 6, 2009 2:16 a.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    Been a long time since I painted a car.. and the last time I did, it was a fiat with chrome bumpers. I am hoping monday to have the body of my saab painted, but I still need to sand and prep the soft plastic covers for the bumpers.

    I know I need a flex agent for the colour and clear coat.. but do I need it for the primer?

  • BoxheadTim

    Dec. 6, 2009 6:38 a.m. BoxheadTim Reader

    I defer to the greater knowledge on this board but I think you do, yes, unless you're using special plastic primer which should work OK without a flex agent.

    Then again, I might be talking out of my backside

  • White_and_Nerdy

    Dec. 6, 2009 8:36 a.m. White_and_Nerdy Reader

    If the primer doesn't stick to the bumper, nothing on top of it will will have a chance. Seems to me the primer is the most important part, and should have a flex agent, or be that special plastic primer.

    Ironically, I've had 4 Saturns but never had to paint any plastic on any of them - and since their bodies are mostly plastic that's kind of amazing.

  • aussiesmg

    Dec. 6, 2009 4:13 p.m. aussiesmg SuperDork

    I found both a flexible plastic primer and bumper paint in aerosol cans at Advance Auto which has held up so far without issues

  • EvanB

    Dec. 6, 2009 4:27 p.m. EvanB HalfDork

    When I painted my Miata I just wetsanded the bumpers and painted them with the same paint as the rest of the car, no flex additive. It has held up fine for the last four years.

  • socalwrench

    Dec. 6, 2009 10:35 p.m. socalwrench New Reader

    Scuff up the bumpers (sanding them of course), clean them (alcohol, thinner, and/or wax cloth), and paint. If there is a decently smooth layer of paint, a primer isn't necessary. How smooth you want the paint is up to you as you can sand and clean between coats.

    For urethane bumpers- a flexible paint, such as bumper paint (aka polyurethane) is necessary.

  • YaNi

    Dec. 7, 2009 11:44 a.m. YaNi Reader

    socalwrench wrote:

    Scuff up the bumpers (sanding them of course), clean them (alcohol, thinner, and/or wax cloth), and paint. If there is a decently smooth layer of paint, a primer isn't necessary. How smooth you want the paint is up to you as you can sand and clean between coats.

    For urethane bumpers- a flexible paint, such as bumper paint (aka polyurethane) is necessary.

    A flex agent is not necessary. Modern urethane paints will flex just fine. I have a friend who is a chemist for PPG tell me that.

    Adhesion promoter, epoxy primer, high fill primer, epoxy primer, base, clear

  • dansxr2

    Dec. 7, 2009 1:16 p.m. dansxr2 Reader

    http://www.wmbarr.com/product.aspx?catid=1&prodid=72

    We used this at our tech school body shop. Works well and is also a flex agent too.

  • pinchvalve

    Dec. 7, 2009 1:21 p.m. pinchvalve SuperDork

    I can tell you this. Whatever Earl Schieb uses does not flex. I backed into a post last week and my bumper paint cracked like glass.

  • kreb

    Dec. 7, 2009 1:42 p.m. kreb Dork

    What filler (If any) will do the trick? I can't imagine bondo cutting it.

  • kpm

    Dec. 7, 2009 1:53 p.m. kpm New Reader

    kreb wrote:

    What filler (If any) will do the trick? I can't imagine bondo cutting it.

    Evercoat 411 Poly Flex flexible glazing putty works great.

    Oh and +1 on the Bulldog adhesion promoter !!

 
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