Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill UberDork
3/20/17 10:59 p.m.

I'm watching my perfectly sanded build primer turn to orange peal with every pass of my paint gun that's splattering sealer on my car like its wall texture on sheetrock, a blob just fell from my gun on to my hood, my nerves have me breathing heavy enough that my respirator just dripped condensation on the wet sealer I just laid, again!, a slight draft just blew some dust from my garage ceiling onto my roof, drip marks, runs, fish eyes, I cant stop, I don't have time to sand this again, the base coat is going on this as it lays, and by the way it's looking "orange peel" will be the first descriptive word out of everyone's mouth when they see this. I'd scream, but the mask would stifle the effort and risk another drip. How in the world did I get here?

I decided to paint my own car.

Why? The previous paint job was crap. It was applied over three other bad layers of paint with god knows what, and I didn't even have enough money left in my project's budget to pay Maaco for a re-spray. So if this was going to get done, I was going to have to be the one to do it.

What's my background? Complete first timer. I've never sprayed a car before, I've never mixed paint, I've no experience with setting up a paint gun, heck! I've never even held a paint gun! Add in the fact that this car's body was covered in almost 1/4" of body filler (and it was hiding some HUGE repairs) and the odds were probably as stacked against me as they could possibly get.

What did it cost? JUST over $1000, here's a rough breakdown:

  • Eastwood.com: $316.88 for the DA sander, Concourse LT Paint gun, 3 needle sets (1.3, 1.5, and 1.7mm), dekups kit, cleaning kit, and adapters

  • local paint shop: roughly $500. $401.00 for one gallon of primer, one gallon of base, one gallon of clear, and all the reducers/activators needed. The other $100 was for laquer thinner (to clean the gun), wax/grease remover, block sander, and the associated block sander paper (150 and 220 grit)

  • Air compressor: $169 on sale at home depot. Husky 20galon. Rated at 1cfm above the requirements of the HVLP gun. A bit small for the sander though.

  • Sand paper (sheets and discs), blue tape, air/oil separator, air hose, bondo, kitty hair, respirator, filters, and beer (estimated $380 total)

  • Small, empty, 2-car garage

How did it turn out? Well, if you saw it on the road you'd be amazed. If you saw it Cars and coffee? Well I'm sure the armchair experts will have PLENTY to say.

Why am I telling you all this? To brag of course! AND to tell the person who's on the fence about doing this themselves is: Do it! Oh please do it! I haven't been this happy about a car project since my first engine rebuild!

If you take your time, listen to the people with experience, and pay attention to the details as you go, you'll end up happier than you've ever been with any other paint job. I promise.

disclaimers:

  • not for concourse cars. Pay someone else concourse money for those

  • I knew I couldn't do it and was very close to quitting half way through masking for the final spray.

  • I was so worked up, I had to drink a beer before shooting the color coat.

  • no purchase necessary

  • void where prohibited

  • known to cause cancer in the state of California, but only in the state of California

NickD
NickD SuperDork
3/21/17 5:44 a.m.

My Miata needs paint but I don't have the patience or skill for bodywork and I don't want it getting stuck in paint jail for an eternity. My father keeps offering to paint it, but the last time he painted a car was sometime in the '80s and I know how he is and fear him blowing it apart for paint and then it sitting untouched for 3 years.

NOHOME
NOHOME PowerDork
3/21/17 5:55 a.m.

Just saw the thread with the results on the build thread page. Great Success!

Rodan
Rodan Reader
3/21/17 7:19 a.m.
NickD wrote: My Miata needs paint but I don't have the patience or skill for bodywork and I don't want it getting stuck in paint jail for an eternity.

It's not rocket science, but it does require patience, and a commitment of time. It's best if you have several days available with good weather to just knock it out. Another big item is really good lighting. I've done a number of projects in the garage (smaller two car) and I've never felt I had enough light. I also wouldn't want to do an entire car in a two car garage. I actually painted the bodywork for a race bike using a 6x12 enclosed trailer as my paint booth once!

It can save you a lot of $$ (especially once you own the equipment) when the project doesn't require a perfect, show car finish. I leave that to the pros.

Last project was a Miata hardtop that was badly sun faded...

Before:  photo DSC_1095_zpsinxsayxk.jpg

'Booth':  photo DSC_9427_zpsdtqkfqok.jpg

After:  photo DSC_9440_zpsudwj7puh.jpg  photo 1st buff_zps7mokycjg.jpg

NickD
NickD SuperDork
3/21/17 8:35 a.m.

In reply to Rodan:

Well, my other conundrum is that I want to put the Autokonexion widebody on my car. But it wouldn't make sense to paint the entire car, then chop into fresh paint to install fenders and quarter panels and then have those painted. And I don't want to widebody it on a bolt-on 1.6L.

SkinnyG
SkinnyG SuperDork
3/21/17 11:39 a.m.

I like to spray enough coats that when I'm done sanding out the defects, I still have paint.

I LOVE spraying. I HATE the prep work.

mlwebb
mlwebb New Reader
3/21/17 12:09 p.m.

Good work. I like folks painting their own. Enough air volume helps, I strung together two compressors (33gal, 6gal and HF airtank), with 30' of black pipe (to get the water out). I use SkinnyG's method.

NOHOME
NOHOME PowerDork
3/21/17 12:54 p.m.

What is this thing?

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
3/21/17 12:58 p.m.

In reply to NOHOME:

I'm guessing Datsun Roadster

mlwebb
mlwebb New Reader
3/21/17 1:37 p.m.

bingo. I have since shoehorned a 260z 6cyl and JDM 6 speed into it, working on wiring and upholstery now.

chandlerGTi
chandlerGTi UberDork
3/21/17 3:23 p.m.

Why isn't there a build thread?

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill UberDork
3/21/17 10:44 p.m.
chandlerGTi wrote: Why isn't there a build thread?

Seconded!

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