So what happens to the DP and Gt Grand Am efforts and others already started their season???
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April 28, 2009 10:16 a.m. bigwrench Reader
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April 28, 2009 10:29 a.m. Will Reader
Slap a Chevy or Caddy badge on 'em. They're corporate engines anyway so what does it matter?
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April 28, 2009 11:24 a.m. P71 Dork
More like Chevy won't give them money. Pontiac had a huge racing budget (NHRA with Pro Stock and Warren Johnson and Jason Line and Greg Anderson; Grand Am/Rolex with the G6.R and formerly the GTO.R race cars not to mention the Pontiac Prototype racers; drifting with the GTO and now the Solstice; SCCA support program; etc, etc). I seriously doubt GM is going to keep all of those programs going, and it's a damn crying shame.
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April 28, 2009 11:37 a.m. Rusty_Rabbit84 Reader
didnt they say Opel wont be affected?
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April 28, 2009 1:28 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork
I was wondering about that.
the Drifting program ended last year. Rhys Millen is drifting a Hyundai this year.
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April 28, 2009 1:52 p.m. Rusty_Rabbit84 Reader
Will wrote:
Slap a Chevy or Caddy badge on 'em. They're corporate engines anyway so what does it matter?
or throw a BUICK badge on em!!!
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April 28, 2009 3:48 p.m. Will Reader
I left out Buick because no Buick offering uses an LS-series V8. Chevy and Caddy products do.
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April 28, 2009 4:27 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork
not true. Buick Lacrosse Super has a FWD 300 HP 5.3liter LS engine.
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April 29, 2009 12:49 a.m. PaulY Reader
I hope they can continue, it was good to see them competing and doing well. Maybe Chevy can pull some money out of Nascar to keep these guys going.
The prototypes aren't hard to change but since there is only a pontiac g6 coupe i don't know how they can keep that going unless they just call it the GM G6 or something. I haven't been able to see much of the series but that car really impressed me how well it did considering it doesn't seem like much as a street car.
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April 29, 2009 6:49 a.m. Dashpot New Reader
The "G6" is a tube framed RWD race car (Pratt & Whitney?). Absolutely no relation to the production vehicle, like the "GTO" before it.
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April 29, 2009 7:11 a.m. Will Reader
maroon92 wrote:
not true. Buick Lacrosse Super has a FWD 300 HP 5.3liter LS engine.
I stand corrected.
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April 29, 2009 8:28 a.m. Rusty_Rabbit84 Reader
Will wrote:
I left out Buick because no Buick offering uses an LS-series V8. Chevy and Caddy products do.
i would love to see buick in the winners circle.
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April 29, 2009 8:44 a.m. P71 Dork
Dashpot,
I know the G6.R is a full-tube race car, but I thought the GTO.R started life as a real GTO, hence why they sold them instead of re-bodying them as G6's.
Rusty Rabbit,
Never heard of the Grand National? GS? Buick's years of NASCAR victories? Miss our other Buick thread? They have a long history of motorsport (granted it pales in comparison to Pontiac).
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April 29, 2009 8:48 a.m. Rusty_Rabbit84 Reader
P71 wrote:
Rusty Rabbit,
Never heard of the Grand National? GS? Buick's years of NASCAR victories? Miss our other Buick thread? They have a long history of motorsport (granted it pales in comparison to Pontiac).
oh yea. the old buick v6 indy light cars!! dont forget those
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April 29, 2009 8:50 a.m. Dashpot New Reader
P71 wrote:
Dashpot,
I know the G6.R is a full-tube race car, but I thought the GTO.R started life as a real GTO, hence why they sold them instead of re-bodying them as G6's.
Just another silhouette:
http://www.theracersgroup.com/racing/pro/gto.php
I have nothing but suspicion that the "G6" IS just a rebodied "GTO".
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April 29, 2009 8:54 a.m. P71 Dork
Dashpot,
I would have the suspicion as well, but they definitely sold all of the GTO.R's. I wouldn't be surprised if the tube chassis underneath both isn't very close or identical, but they for sure sold the GTO's off, so they're not "re-bodies" per say...
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April 29, 2009 9:15 a.m. Rusty_Rabbit84 Reader
from a different site:
With the bodywork inspired by the Pontiac G6 GXP Street edition coupe, the GXP.R is the next step in the evolution of a successful racing program that began with the purpose-built GTO.R. The GTO.R was retired after winning the 2006 GT championship; the new GXP.R is built on the same winning foundation as the GTO.R.
http://www.supercarnews.net/2008-pontiac-g6-gxp-r
but i really dont know
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April 29, 2009 11:38 a.m. maroon92 SuperDork
Dashpot said:
The "G6" is a tube framed RWD race car (Pratt & Whitney?). Absolutely no relation to the production vehicle, like the "GTO" before it.
definately not Prat and Whitney, they make airplane engines. Pratt and Miller Engineering make the Chassis for the GXP.R, as well as the C6.R's in the ALMS...
Yes, the GXP.R is basically the same chassis as the GTO.R before it. Why start from scratch when you have a winning chassis to begin with. obviously improvements were made, but it is mostly the same with a different body.
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April 29, 2009 6:07 p.m. DirtyBird222 Dork
I am sure they will run the rest of the year out as Pontiacs in Grand-Am. Next year things might be different though. Sad Sad Sad, time to go get my Arrow head tat next to my Olds
