Is this the future of rat rods?
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July 19, 2009 6:56 p.m. Hal HalfDork
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July 19, 2009 7:02 p.m. curtis Reader
No thats pretty much a rat rod already. see anything having to do with "Rat fink".
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July 19, 2009 7:53 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork
I don't see anything futuristic about that...but I am interested in the RX-7 on drag slicks in the background.
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July 19, 2009 7:54 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork
iron duke?
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July 19, 2009 7:58 p.m. wlkelley3 HalfDork
OK, I must be blind or not getting it. What the rear snorkel hooked to? More specifically, what's its purpose? It looks like it goes to a spot on the intake manifold behind the carb.
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July 19, 2009 8:24 p.m. eastsidemav New Reader
The steering geometry makes baby Jesus cry.
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July 19, 2009 8:31 p.m. Hal HalfDork
maroon92 wrote:
I don't see anything futuristic about that...but I am interested in the RX-7 on drag slicks in the background.
Lettering on cowl hood says "Not LS1".
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July 19, 2009 8:32 p.m. Hal HalfDork
mad_machine wrote:
iron duke?
I think so, He said it came from a Chevy Nova. And that is the point of my question.
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July 19, 2009 8:37 p.m. Hal HalfDork
wlkelley3 wrote:
OK, I must be blind or not getting it. What the rear snorkel hooked to? More specifically, what's its purpose? It looks like it goes to a spot on the intake manifold behind the carb.
That is the trademark of the builder. Every one of his cars has some nonsenical stuff added to the intake. Best one was a rectangular box that actually contained an air filer but had eight tubes coming out the top reminescent of the old Hilborn fuel injectors.
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July 19, 2009 8:43 p.m. smog7 Dork
future? that's pretty much a present day rat rod...
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July 20, 2009 6:34 a.m. 44Dwarf Reader
Iron dukes are old school now.... There used to be boat loads of parts for them but don't seen many anymore. crap i think the last block was made in 76? You used to be able to buy alum duke blocks too.
44
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July 20, 2009 6:58 a.m. Junkyard_Dog Reader
That is the base engine in the 1962 Chevy II.
I always thought that was the start of the Duke but Wikipedia dissagrees. I think the blocks were the same.
My 80 Jeep CJ-5 had one. Indestructible but bog slow.
The pushrod Tech4 is related so it lived well into the 90s.
Marine variations were built up to 3 liters (!) iirc.
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July 20, 2009 7:50 a.m. Gimp Dork
wlkelley3 wrote:
OK, I must be blind or not getting it.
Must be... that picture was taken in June... OF 2012!!!
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July 20, 2009 8:56 a.m. nocones Reader
I don't know, those motor mounts are terrifying though...
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July 20, 2009 5:02 p.m. ronbros New Reader
worked on many of both, Wiki is correct the Iron-Duke and Chevy 153 were completly different engines, biggest diff. was the combustion chamber in the head for Chevy, and chamber in piston for iron duke,sometimes called a flat chamber, along with manifold in and out sides, both were pretty good but general consensuse for performance gives the nod to Ironduke. many used in midget race cars, oval track style, with Hilborn mech. fuel injection on Methanol fuel.
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July 20, 2009 5:06 p.m. ronbros New Reader
Rat rods are cool,, not a big outlay of money,, for the great feed back from the crowd. isnt this whole damn thing( called cars) about anyway.
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July 21, 2009 5:59 a.m. 914Driver SuperDork
...and has a nice E brake.
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July 21, 2009 6:05 a.m. 44Dwarf Reader
AUG....153's shutter.... the dreaded Vega / monza motor Alum block iron head = dumb A$$ idea. they never grow the same rate and the head weight more then the block... After 5 head gaskets out it came and in whent a 350 in my monza.
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July 21, 2009 8:32 a.m. slantvaliant Reader
44Dwarf wrote: the dreaded Vega / monza motor Alum block iron head = dumb A$$ idea. they never grow the same rate and the head weight more then the block...
The Vega 2.3L/140 engine had problems, but using dissimilar metals for the block and head was among the least of them. In fact, that's pretty common practice - but usually with aluminum heads and iron blocks. On relatively short heads, the difference in expansion rates isn't that much of an issue.
The worst detail was using unlined aluminum bores. The technology just wasn't ready for prime time. Oil level and oil change intervals were very important - more so than on typical American engines of the period.
The early Vegas also had inadequate cooling which contributed to overheating, headgasket, and oil problems. Cooling was improved on later models.
Vibration was a real problem, as well.
My own '75 Vega Kammback had the iron liners in a warranty engine. No oil burning, no cooling issues, pretty reliable car.
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July 21, 2009 5:19 p.m. ronbros New Reader
THE VEGA ENGINE WAS A COMPLETLY DIFFERENT ENGINE THAN THE CHEVYll 153, or the PONTIAC IRON DUKE 2.5.
but Vega was the 1st mass produced car with aluminum bores, that Honda and Mercedes Benz, finally got it right, sombody has to set the stage you know. GM also had the 1st all aluminum V8 block and heads, with TURBOCHARGING, for mass production, at real people prices, 1963 oldsmobile
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July 21, 2009 5:30 p.m. Wowak Dork
My only question is: who puts a Fram oil filter on an exposed engine?
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July 21, 2009 5:43 p.m. ronbros New Reader
GM,, Pontiac also had the 1st belt driven OHC inline 6, iron block,aluminum head, mass produced.( which means real people prices) altho some say Fiat 4cyl. about the same time frame(mid 60s)
personally i think GM gets a bad rap, if you seen the list of 1sts they brought to the automotive world ,it may surprise you.
the Fram filter is about price, and it filters good enough for that engine!
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July 21, 2009 6:19 p.m. Twin_Cam Dork
Wowak wrote:
My only question is: who puts a Fram oil filter on an exposed engine?
I thought I was the only one who noticed...
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July 21, 2009 6:56 p.m. wlkelley3 HalfDork
Twin_Cam wrote:
Wowak wrote: My only question is: who puts a Fram oil filter on an exposed engine?
I thought I was the only one who noticed...It almost matches the color of the engine/car. Maybe that's why he chose Fram.
