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  • moTthediesel

    May 7, 2011 11:30 p.m. moTthediesel New Reader

    R&T is so sad now --

    Back in the John Bond days it was like Holy Writ to me, and Henry Manney was my God of letters, the best American motor journalist ever IMHO.

    Peter Egan is still good, maybe a last vestige of the glory that was, but not enough to make it worth buying.

  • aeronca65t

    May 8, 2011 5:52 a.m. aeronca65t Dork

    Along with Grassroots and Classic Motorsports I also read:

    Practical Classics

    Vintage Motorsports

    And the NY Time "Wheels" is usually good too.

    A great tech read (and even some car related stuff) is Make magazine.

    I also read Machine Design and the SAE magazine (my job pays for these).

    I do miss the John Bond-era Road & Track. With Manney, Rob Walker, Stan Mott and others. And I actually remember reading C&D it when it was Sports Car Illustrated. This was back when C&D had Gordon Jennings, Warren Weith and Dicky Smothers writing. And later Csere, Yates, Bedard, Sherman, Steve Smith, P.J. O'Rourke and others. C&D was a great magazine. Now it just suitable for the bottom of bird cages in my opinion. This is almost true for R&T too.

    Peter Egan's stuff is all online ~Here~

  • aeronca65t

    May 8, 2011 6:17 a.m. aeronca65t Dork

    By he way, someone really needs to build a copy of Mott's Cyclops for The Challenge. Hayabusa-powered, of course.

  • DeadSkunk

    May 8, 2011 6:29 a.m. DeadSkunk HalfDork

    I let C&D lapse. Still get R&T until it lapses.
    Then I get....
    GRM
    Classic Motorsport
    Hemmings Sport and Exotic Car
    Classic and Sports Car
    Motor Trend
    Automobile
    Vintage Motorsport
    Vintage Racecar
    Thoroughbred and Classic Cars
    Motorsport
    Hemmings Classic Car
    Retro
    Hot Rod (every issue since June '68 !)
    European Car
    Modified
    Practical Classics
    Evo

    I think I have a problem...........

  • JoeTR6

    May 8, 2011 6:46 a.m. JoeTR6 New Reader

    DrBoost wrote:

    I'm with Alfadriver. MY R&T sub ran out and it took like 4 months to notice it. And that's only because i was on the throne and really needed some reading material.

    At least it wasn't because you ran out of TP. The inks they use can really irritate your softer tissues.

  • Twin_Cam

    May 8, 2011 6:59 a.m. Twin_Cam SuperDork

    The only car mag I get through a subscription is GRM. I used to get C&D, Autoweek, and Automobile at various points, but none of them ever really clicked. Then I saw a magazine that featured a Datsun 210 with an Olds 215 V8 mounted in the passenger's seat, and said "This is definitely for me."

    I do occasionally pick up Racecar Engineering if I'm walking through a store that has it, though. Really fascinating stuff in there, even though I don't understand the geekspeak in it.

  • aussiesmg

    May 8, 2011 8:08 a.m. aussiesmg SuperDork

    DeadSkunk wrote:

    I let C&D lapse. Still get R&T until it lapses.
    Then I get....
    GRM
    Classic Motorsport
    Hemmings Sport and Exotic Car
    Classic and Sports Car
    Motor Trend
    Automobile
    Vintage Motorsport
    Vintage Racecar
    Thoroughbred and Classic Cars
    Motorsport
    Hemmings Classic Car
    Retro
    Hot Rod (every issue since June '68 !)
    European Car
    Modified
    Practical Classics
    Evo

    I think I have a problem...........

    I barely have time to read GRM and CM, dayum

  • LopRacer

    May 8, 2011 10:04 a.m. LopRacer New Reader

    My subscrips are always in flux it seems, My GRM and CM do not lapse, icronically nor does R&T but only because I have been getting it since before I was able to read the articles and only liked the pictures (think 1974- 1975ish) I still like to read Egan. Motortrend thanks to the free subscription from their traveling car show. EuroTuner (insert Stance joke here) Hot Rod (just gave me a deal for like $10) Apparently European Car is comping me since my subscription ran out 2-3 months ago but they keep sending it, perhaps becuase I started as a subscriber back when they were VW&Porsche. VW Trends because it is the only afforable air cooled VW mag I can get. I think I just got Hemmings Sports and Exotic subscription for $10-$20 too. I still make my monthly or bi-monthly trek to Barnes and Noble to read up on the ones I don't want to buy.

  • Javelin

    May 8, 2011 10:06 a.m. Javelin SuperDork

    aussiesmg wrote:

    DeadSkunk wrote:

    I let C&D lapse. Still get R&T until it lapses.
    Then I get....
    GRM
    Classic Motorsport
    Hemmings Sport and Exotic Car
    Classic and Sports Car
    Motor Trend
    Automobile
    Vintage Motorsport
    Vintage Racecar
    Thoroughbred and Classic Cars
    Motorsport
    Hemmings Classic Car
    Retro
    Hot Rod (every issue since June '68 !)
    European Car
    Modified
    Practical Classics
    Evo

    I think I have a problem...........

    I barely have time to read GRM and CM, dayum

    Activia!

  • DrBoost

    May 8, 2011 12:32 p.m. DrBoost SuperDork

    You mean GRM has a print magazine???

  • JoeyM

    May 8, 2011 1:03 p.m. JoeyM SuperDork

    DrBoost wrote:

    You mean GRM has a print magazine???

    +1 this

  • keethrax

    May 8, 2011 1:22 p.m. keethrax HalfDork

    DrBoost wrote:

    You mean GRM has a print magazine???

    Sure. We really just buy it to keep the forums up and running. The articles all suck.

  • Grizz

    May 8, 2011 2:39 p.m. Grizz New Reader

    I used to have a sub to SCC before it turned to suck and went tits up. Even put the license plate frame on a 3/4 ton pickup for E36 M3s n giggles.

    I'd like to get GRM, CM, and probably Car Craft, diesel power, and some Mopar mags, but every time I've thought about it something pops up and eats my money.

  • JoeyM

    May 8, 2011 4:20 p.m. JoeyM SuperDork

    keethrax wrote:

    Sure. We really just buy it to keep the forums up and running.

    You may have meant that in jest, but it is an accurate summary of my behavior. I bought a subscription just before I made dork.....thought I owed something to Tim for spending so much time on his servers....

    keethrax wrote: The articles all suck.

    No, it is a good magazine with informative articles, but I honestly read less than half of it most months. A lot of the big features (last issue's $15K roadsters, this issue's Porsche 911 article) do nothing for me.....I simply can't afford toys like that.

    The roadster issue had a letter to the editor that said the magazine spends too much time on stuff people build out of trash....those are the sorts of things I want to read.

  • sanman

    May 8, 2011 4:43 p.m. sanman Reader

    JoeyM wrote:

    keethrax wrote:

    Sure. We really just buy it to keep the forums up and running.

    You may have meant that in jest, but it is an accurate summary of my behavior. I bought a subscription just before I made dork.....thought I owed something to Tim for spending so much time on his servers....

    keethrax wrote: The articles all suck.

    No, it is a good magazine with informative articles, but I honestly read less than half of it most months. A lot of the big features (last issue's $15K roadsters, this issue's Porsche 911 article) do nothing for me.....I simply can't afford toys like that.

    The roadster issue had a letter to the editor that said the magazine spends too much time on stuff people build out of trash....those are the sorts of things I want to read.

    I think the mag does a good job of varying it up. Not all of us have the skill to transform trash into treasure. Not all of us can afford to spend $15k on a ride. We all make compromises and time/money judgements. The forums and the mag do a good job of balancing and being inclusive to all I think. Hell, $15 roadster articles still beat the Ferraris and Porsches on the covers of the standard mags. At least those $15k vehicles may be in your price range in a few years even you can't afford it now. I don't foresee a 458 Italia in my future unless I marry REALLY well.

  • JoeyM

    May 8, 2011 6:16 p.m. JoeyM SuperDork

    sanman wrote:

    JoeyM wrote:

    keethrax wrote:

    Sure. We really just buy it to keep the forums up and running.

    You may have meant that in jest, but it is an accurate summary of my behavior. I bought a subscription just before I made dork.....thought I owed something to Tim for spending so much time on his servers....

    keethrax wrote: The articles all suck.

    No, it is a good magazine with informative articles, but I honestly read less than half of it most months. A lot of the big features (last issue's $15K roadsters, this issue's Porsche 911 article) do nothing for me.....I simply can't afford toys like that.

    The roadster issue had a letter to the editor that said the magazine spends too much time on stuff people build out of trash....those are the sorts of things I want to read.

    The forums and the mag do a good job of balancing and being inclusive to all I think. Hell, $15 roadster articles still beat the Ferraris and Porsches on the covers of the standard mags.

    agreed. BTW, this is the only way I'll get something interesting to drive.

  • DeadSkunk

    May 8, 2011 6:41 p.m. DeadSkunk HalfDork

    aussiesmg wrote:

    DeadSkunk wrote:

    I let C&D lapse. Still get R&T until it lapses.
    Then I get....
    GRM
    Classic Motorsport
    Hemmings Sport and Exotic Car
    Classic and Sports Car
    Motor Trend
    Automobile
    Vintage Motorsport
    Vintage Racecar
    Thoroughbred and Classic Cars
    Motorsport
    Hemmings Classic Car
    Retro
    Hot Rod (every issue since June '68 !)
    European Car
    Modified
    Practical Classics
    Evo

    I think I have a problem...........

    I barely have time to read GRM and CM, dayum

    I'm retired.... I have the time !!

  • plance1

    May 8, 2011 8:02 p.m. plance1 Dork

    I used to love Autoweek but then they got all snotty on us with their stupid articles on ferrari pens and cuff links, not to mention every column or article is some silly political correct pile of crap.

    All other car magazines suck, mainly because they have been taken over by artsy fartsy photographers who think every photograph has to be blurry, you know, to show cars are in motion (you get it, right????) or they take some up close and personal photo of some meaningless detail on a car instead of showing us how it looks from the side, the front and yes the rear. This passes for art nowadays.

    Gee, I'm really glad this post came along, I tend to vent like this every few months.

  • Luke

    May 9, 2011 1:14 a.m. Luke SuperDork

    aeronca65t wrote:

    Peter Egan's stuff is all online ~Here~

    Thanks for the link! Just killed an hour there, and I suspect a few more later. Love Mr. Egan's writing.

    As for magazines, GRM, CM, and the occasional (expensive) British classic car mag for me.

  • Wally

    May 9, 2011 6:04 a.m. Wally SuperDork

    Right now I have

    GRM

    Wheels of time

    Scale Auto

    Model Cars

    Hot Rod

    Car Craft

    Automobile

    Family Handyman'

    This Old House

    and from the newsstand I pick up

    CM

    Racecar Engineering

    Trucking (a UK magazine with some great pics of classic trucks)

    Hot Rod Deluxe

    I have a lot of commuting time to kill

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