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  • Taiden

    June 7, 2011 8:09 a.m. Taiden HalfDork

    Now I'm no material scienmatist, but it seems to me that rubber dries out and cracks because it loses something over time. Is there any way to recondition a rubber piece that hasn't begun cracking, by reintroducing the thing that is lost?

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

  • rob_lewis

    June 7, 2011 8:47 a.m. rob_lewis Dork

    A long time ago, someone recommended Gummi-Pflege at my local BMW dealer. Kinda like leather hide food for rubber. Usually takes a few applications, but seems to restore old rubber seals really well.

    -Rob

  • 16vCorey

    June 7, 2011 8:54 a.m. 16vCorey SuperDork

    I don't know how much truth there is to it, but I have always heard that brake fluid will make rubber soft again.

  • Josh

    June 7, 2011 8:57 a.m. Josh Dork

    Gummi-pflege works well on window and door seals that have absolutely no load carrying capacity, but I don't think I'd try it on suspension bushings or engine mounts.

  • Taiden

    June 7, 2011 8:59 a.m. Taiden HalfDork

    haha oh my. I dont think I want to recondition loaded rubber. I was thinking more like brake caliper slider pin boots, weatherstripping, etc etc.

  • Uncoiled

    June 7, 2011 9:12 a.m. Uncoiled New Reader

    Ive heard peanut butter works, never tried it though...

  • mad_machine

    June 7, 2011 9:37 a.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    Never had any luck reconditioning old rubber.. just seems a stopgap measure.

  • Josh

    June 7, 2011 10:07 a.m. Josh Dork

    Brake caliper boots are cheap, just replace them and the pins every second brake job or something. It'd be as much work to get in and treat them as it would to just replace them.

    Gummi-pflege is good for door seals and the like though. I think Bill Dodge BMW probably has it, if not Bavauto definitely does. I have a bottle in the garage if you're ever in Saco/Biddeford.

  • pinchvalve

    June 7, 2011 12:34 p.m. pinchvalve SuperDork

    Having worked in the elastomers industry for 12 years, I can tell you that nothing will recondition rubber chemically.

  • Taiden

    June 7, 2011 12:47 p.m. Taiden HalfDork

    pinchvalve wrote:

    Having worked in the elastomers industry for 12 years, I can tell you that nothing will recondition rubber chemically.

    Good enough for me.

    Out of curiosity though, what is actually happening to the rubber when it ages? What causes aging, and what combats aging?

  • fritzsch

    June 7, 2011 12:51 p.m. fritzsch New Reader

    pinchvalve wrote:

    Having worked in the elastomers industry for 12 years, I can tell you that nothing will recondition rubber chemically.

    Not with that attitude, if you can dream it you can do it!

  • foxtrapper

    June 8, 2011 7:14 p.m. foxtrapper SuperDork

    pinchvalve wrote:

    Having worked in the elastomers industry for 12 years, I can tell you that nothing will recondition rubber chemically.

    OK. Not disputing you. Simply asking for what you think happens.

    Why is it that I can take an old garden hose that is stiff as a wooden plank, soak it in armorall and let it sit in the sun for a day, and it becomes soft? The same hose that has been sitting in the sun all summer, refusing to become soft. It certainly seems to be a chemical softening.

    And secondarily, what have you seen with regards to preservatives that are supposed to prevent the degradation from happening in the first place?

 
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