Per Schroeder wrote:I just wish there was an aftermarket for them so I could justify one as a project car.
No aftermarket is what makes it fun. Anybody can bolt on parts.
I've liked those cars from the beginning.
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June 16, 2009 9:16 a.m. suprf1y Reader
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June 16, 2009 9:51 a.m. 4cylndrfury HalfDork
Per Schroeder wrote:
Ok, maybe when the current generation hits 3k or less. That won't be long, as I'm already seeing them at 5-7k.
yesss!!!
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June 16, 2009 11:31 a.m. WLB New Reader
Back when gas was $4.00+ per gallon we rented an Accent for a trip from Indianapolis to the Gulf coast. It was perfect for two people, quite comfortable, and my wife couldn't decide to bring home a wrought iron table and 4 chairs for the back porch like she did when we made the same trip a year ago in the Suburban.
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June 16, 2009 4:15 p.m. skierd Dork
I've had a hankering to turn an Accent SE into an HS car. On paper, they're very similar to the regular Mini...
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June 16, 2009 4:22 p.m. mad_machine UltraDork
hmmmm spec accent race series?
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June 16, 2009 5:33 p.m. Appleseed HalfDork
One more reason I love this forum.
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June 16, 2009 5:39 p.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director
skierd wrote:
I've had a hankering to turn an Accent SE into an HS car. On paper, they're very similar to the regular Mini...
Yes, but it's going to wind up coming down to suspension tuning. The MINI was actually engineered to slalom/transition well—spring and anti-roll bar rates were actually optimized to make it fast through a slalom. The Hyundai....not so much? That said, would make a fun FSP car.
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June 16, 2009 9:20 p.m. Buzz Killington Reader
+1 for liking the way they look. good to hear they're reasonably quiet on the highway. wish they were a little bit lighter, though. that's why i'm looking forward to the Fiesta so much.
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June 16, 2009 9:21 p.m. skierd Dork
Except for being 2-3" taller (can't remember) its dimensionally nearly identical to the Mini and $7000 cheaper. The Accent SE was designed to have better handling, to the point they used a different steering rack to give it quicker steering. Hyundai put some effort into this one... The problem is more the funky VW-ish rear suspension than anything else, but I'm still certain someone could make the car cone dance well in stock. There's room for decently sized R-comps in the fenders fwiw, I've measured. I just can't/couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger on one so far else I'd do it. Maybe once I get out of school?
Then again, the V6 tiburon is also in HS. That car, for its size, handles extremely well and certainly out powers anything else in HS. The only thing I'm not sure about with the tiburon is how wide tires can be on it to fit under the fenders without rubbing on stock sized wheels.
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June 17, 2009 7:40 a.m. Bobzilla HalfDork
^ THe Tib V6 has always been underpowered and overweight. 3000+lb empty car with 171hp and a terrible torque curve is not something to brag about. It's a cruiser.
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June 17, 2009 8:35 a.m. pinchvalve UltraDork
Per Schroeder wrote:
I dunno, I loved the Kia Rio that I had as a rental car recently. I just wish there was an aftermarket for them so I could justify one as a project car.
Perhaps if major car magazines (hint hint) did articles on their potential, then the aftermarket would follow! Kia and Hyundai both have several models that could really be the next 4th Gen Civic with a little encouragement.
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June 17, 2009 8:50 a.m. 4cylndrfury HalfDork
pinchvalve wrote:
Per Schroeder wrote:
I dunno, I loved the Kia Rio that I had as a rental car recently. I just wish there was an aftermarket for them so I could justify one as a project car.
Perhaps if major car magazines (hint hint) did articles on their potential, then the aftermarket would follow! Kia and Hyundai both have several models that could really be the next 4th Gen Civic with a little encouragement.
yes please
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June 17, 2009 9:41 a.m. Bobzilla HalfDork
Maybe I need to drop my Elantra off at GRM headquarters for the week we're on our cruise..... let them "test it out" and see what there is.
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June 17, 2009 10:12 a.m. CrackMonkey HalfDork
So, does anybody know the specific differences between the Accent and Accent SE?
The only differences listed on the Specs page are a short shifter and "sport tuned" suspension - but what does that actually mean? Springs? Shocks? Anti-roll bars? There is no mention of a different steering rack. $5300 is a lot of money for a set of springs and shocks.
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June 17, 2009 10:17 a.m. CrackMonkey HalfDork
A little more research, these appear to be some other differences between the base and SE...
- Sport-tuned suspension (still can't figure out what this means)
- B & M Racing Sport Shifter (M/T)
- Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) and Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD)
- Air conditioning
- AM/FM/XM/CD/MP3 audio system with auxiliary input jack and 6 speakers (vs basic 4 speaker)
- 16" alloy wheels with P205/45R16 tires (vs 14" steel with P175/70R14 tires)
- Fog lights
- Power windows & door locks
- Power outside mirrors
- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
- Driver & passenger illuminated vanity mirrors with covers
- Remote keyless entry system w/ alarm
- Tinted glass with windshield shade band
- Bodycolor mirrors and door handles
- Rear wiper
- Metallic interior trim
- Front seatback pockets
- Tilt steering wheel
Of the list, the only non-performance item that's a must-have is the A/C.
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June 17, 2009 10:39 a.m. petegossett Dork
As I recall, the SE got different swaybars(maybe added a rear bar???), not sure about springs.
I do remember being disappointed in the shifter...
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June 17, 2009 10:47 a.m. neon4891 UltraDork
Down side to the SE is that it is a $5k price jump from the base. But OTOH we arn't exactly a bunch that buys new very often.
Any ways, how much weight can you drop by pulling the rear seat?
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June 17, 2009 10:51 a.m. DILYSI Dave UltimaDork
That white concept car is hot. Love it every time I see it.
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June 17, 2009 11:20 a.m. GTwannaB New Reader
I am not 100% sure but I think the 2007 SE had four wheel disc brakes. 2008 and later Hyundai cheaped out with rear drums, too bad they could have a budget GTI on their hands.
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June 17, 2009 11:51 a.m. poopshovel SuperDork
DILYSI Dave wrote:
That white concept car is hot. Love it every time I see it.
Big +1. Weird how we seem to have the same aesthetic taste. (puts on flame-proof suit...) I think the wagon LOOKS better than the Protege 6...and the new WRX.
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June 17, 2009 12:36 p.m. pres589 New Reader
It'd be nice to be able to purchase the base or GS whatever, the low cost versions, and still be able to add a sunroof when spec'ing one out. I don't know how badly I want 45 series tires or if that shifter is really worth the cost, et cetera that comes with the SE.
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June 17, 2009 12:40 p.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director
I'm in the opposite boat—I dislike the weight of sunroofs and don't fit that well in cars that have them.
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June 17, 2009 1:23 p.m. DILYSI Dave UltimaDork
Per Schroeder wrote:
I'm in the opposite boat—I dislike the weight of sunroofs and don't fit that well in cars that have them.
+1
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June 17, 2009 1:43 p.m. jstein77 HalfDork
4cylndrfury wrote:
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yes please
My goodness, that is a really good looking little wagon.
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June 17, 2009 2:47 p.m. pres589 New Reader
Per Schroeder wrote:
I'm in the opposite boat—I dislike the weight of sunroofs and don't fit that well in cars that have them.
I miss having an easy way to get the heat out of a car, get a little wind through the thing, and I'm 6'5"; I've never really had a problem with sunroofs. I dislike having to run air-con to stay comfortable and have found the sunroof to be a nice compromise.
