John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/10/08 4:18 p.m.

The air box on the Saturd SC1 has a air charge temp sensor in the lower half of the box. The air box also has the inlet size of a gnats nuts.

1: Will opening the lower section of the air box make any improvement in performance? (more air could be taken in)

2: Will the ACTS be negatively affected by the larger (atmosphere) air chamber?

3: Will removing "the straw" create too much of a loss of torque?

4: Anyone out there LIKE putting automatic transmissions in Saturns?

Xceler8x
Xceler8x GRM+ Memberand Reader
6/10/08 4:26 p.m.

I think that quite a few cars have such a small breathing tube for noise regs. My Speed3 had a very small hole to draw air from. Since changing out the stock air box for a cold air intake the power and noise is up significantly.

It may be a less dramatic change for your normally aspirates Saturn.

Twin_Cam
Twin_Cam Dork
6/10/08 4:46 p.m.
  1. The noise level will go up very sllightly, but you'll be hard pressed to notice a performance improvement
  2. Uh, what? The car will run fine
  3. GRM did a test on a Civic where they took that thing away and torque went down like .02 ft/lb
  4. Hell no. Unless you have a medical condition that doesn't let you use your left leg, or you live in LA and drive in traffic all the time, manual is the way to go.
John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/10/08 4:56 p.m.

LOL. I can't find a manual parts car right now. As soon as I do find one for dirt I may keep the car. (How many $100.00 stick SOHC/DOHC cars were given away over the past 3 years?) Until then I need to make the car go backwards.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin Dork
6/10/08 4:57 p.m.
  1. About the only thing that will give an SC1 a noticeable performance increase is a DOHC+Manual swap.

  2. No.

  3. What torque?

  4. No.

belteshazzar
belteshazzar Dork
6/11/08 4:43 p.m.

the cheapest dohc 5 sp saturn I've had was $300.

they're out there.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin Dork
6/15/08 7:53 a.m.

My sister has been driving a $400 DOHC 5spd for 2 years now.

integraguy
integraguy New Reader
6/17/08 12:38 a.m.

A local car dealer has a 5 speed SC2, but finding a Saturn, anymore, with a manual tranny is about as hard as finding a Toyota, ANY Toyota, new or used, with a manual transmission.

NYG95GA
NYG95GA Dork
6/17/08 12:47 a.m.

Saturns have performance? That's the first I've heard of it.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/17/08 6:11 a.m.

Some say the same about Neons... ;)

I am changing up to an Escort with an automatic at the end of the week, so yes... Saturns AND Neons ARE performance cars.

HStockSolo
HStockSolo
7/10/08 9:51 a.m.
NYG95GA wrote: Saturns have performance? That's the first I've heard of it.

The Porsche 996 driver who was 2 seconds slower than me in my very stock 180k mile 1995 Saturn SW2 at my last autocross probably disagrees.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin Dork
7/10/08 10:18 a.m.
HStockSolo wrote:
NYG95GA wrote: Saturns have performance? That's the first I've heard of it.
The Porsche 996 driver who was 2 seconds slower than me in my very stock 180k mile 1995 Saturn SW2 at my last autocross probably disagrees.

And One Lap of America participants from 2001-2003

FunkyStickman
FunkyStickman New Reader
7/14/08 10:25 p.m.

I've never seen anybody to a stick-to-auto swap in an S-series car... but I've seen plenty done the other way.

Performance-wise, your best bet is a DOHC engine/tranny swap (the gear ratios are different) and a few bolt-ons will give you 150HP in a 2400 pound car.

And yes, Saturns won the econo class in One Lap for three years running...

minimac
minimac Dork
7/15/08 5:49 a.m.

Hahahaha...you said Saturn and performance...you funny guy!(bad Jackie Chan voice)

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