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  • plance1

    Sept. 29, 2010 8:34 p.m. plance1 Dork

    and I gots to thinkin about a new racing series....

    All cars must be stock American sedan's from the 1970's. (Caprice, Chrysler Newports, Ford LTD's, you know what I'm talking about, big ones) Station wagon's are ok of course. When I say stock I mean if you get in there and monkey with the engine, we claim your car, haha. You will be allowed to flip the air cleaner lid. But seriously, let me continue...

    Must use the original size wheels that came on the car. New tires are allowed though.

    Some safety equipment is allowed...but not too much.

    This is far as I've gotten.

  • pres589

    Sept. 29, 2010 8:41 p.m. pres589 HalfDork

    Why not use today's sedans? Homologation specials require 10,000 units sold to the public. And make them have to hit certain mile per gallon targets.

  • jimbob_racing

    Sept. 29, 2010 8:41 p.m. jimbob_racing HalfDork

    Shocks have got to be allowed but can't cost more than $50 per corner.

  • plance1

    Sept. 29, 2010 8:51 p.m. plance1 Dork

    pres589 wrote:

    Homologation

    What did you call me??? Clearly, you're more Tyne Daly then Dirty Harry. Listen, I want big cars that use lots of gas. In fact, new rule, right now: Gas tanks can be as large as you want em to be. No, wait, let me go further, gas tanks can even be externally mounted so as everyone can actually see how big they are.

    Oh yeah, shocks are optional.

  • oldopelguy

    Sept. 29, 2010 8:53 p.m. oldopelguy Dork

    Do you have to start every race with hubcaps, just so they can roll on off when you corner?

  • Strizzo

    Sept. 29, 2010 9:07 p.m. Strizzo SuperDork

    oldopelguy wrote:

    Do you have to start every race with hubcaps, just so they can roll on off when you corner?

    drivers are required to pit at least twice per race or heat to replace all hubcaps that have fallen off so that the same hubcap can be seen coming off the same wheel three different times in a race.

  • Sept. 29, 2010 9:15 p.m. conesare2seconds New Reader

    Oof. The tire budget will be $$$.

  • Feedyurhed

    Sept. 29, 2010 9:34 p.m. Feedyurhed HalfDork

    And you better have a track with large run off/gravel areas and long sweeping gradual turns or it might look more like a demolition derby than a race.

  • Zomby woof

    Sept. 29, 2010 9:36 p.m. Zomby woof Dork

    I was watching that movie today, too.

  • David S. Wallens

    Sept. 29, 2010 10:23 p.m. David S. Wallens Editorial Director

    You know, I have actually lapped Road America in both a Caprice 9C1 and an Impala SS. The leather was too slippery.

  • maddabe

    Sept. 29, 2010 11:00 p.m. maddabe New Reader

    Exhaust must exit through the hood in a vertical fashion. Imagine the noise. It would be glorious! Crapcan Can-Am style? Who's with me?

  • Wally

    Sept. 29, 2010 11:31 p.m. Wally SuperDork

    At some point the track has to pass under an elevated train line

    Extra points if you slalom through the pillars

  • thatsnowinnebago

    Sept. 29, 2010 11:35 p.m. thatsnowinnebago Dork

    Can there be jousting to determine starting order?

  • David S. Wallens

    Sept. 30, 2010 12:24 a.m. David S. Wallens Editorial Director

    Wally wrote:

    At some point the track has to pass under an elevated train line

    Extra points if you slalom through the pillars

    Check out what's waiting to get a green light.

  • Sept. 30, 2010 12:29 a.m. grimmelshanks HalfDork

    ^i noticed that

  • Luke

    Sept. 30, 2010 12:37 a.m. Luke SuperDork

    Is that from the French Connection?

  • 4cylndrfury

    Sept. 30, 2010 6:20 a.m. 4cylndrfury SuperDork

    Segal: Out for justice...turd brown 9C1 caprice, V8, berms under the el, serious baddassery

  • 1988RedT2

    Sept. 30, 2010 6:29 a.m. 1988RedT2 Reader

    plance1 wrote:

    and I gots to thinkin about a new racing series....

    All cars must be stock American sedan's from the 1970's. (Caprice, Chrysler Newports, Ford LTD's, you know what I'm talking about, big ones) Station wagon's are ok of course. When I say stock I mean if you get in there and monkey with the engine, we claim your car, haha. You will be allowed to flip the air cleaner lid. But seriously, let me continue...

    Must use the original size wheels that came on the car. New tires are allowed though.

    Some safety equipment is allowed...but not too much.

    This is far as I've gotten.

    I actually owned a '76 Olds Cutlass coupe for three years. The thought of someone racing cars like that sends cold chills down my spine. That car was a big, wallowing pig that would bottom the suspension over any little hump in the road. The steering was perfectly numb without any feedback whatsoever. And even with 350 cubic inches and a big Quadrajet, the thing couldn't go faster than 80 mph no matter how long you kept your right foot pinned to the floor. Driving American cars of the 70's serves as a stinging reminder of just exactly how the American auto industry went down the E36 M3ter.

  • kazoospec

    Sept. 30, 2010 6:30 a.m. kazoospec New Reader

    You know, I had actually thought about a similar series w/old police package cars. And, as a bonus, most come with a push-bar already in place. Flying hubcaps pretty much doubles the awesomeness factor though.

  • Raze

    Sept. 30, 2010 6:49 a.m. Raze Dork

    I still like the idea of a Hyundai Accent Spec Racing Series...

  • Zomby woof

    Sept. 30, 2010 7:44 a.m. Zomby woof Dork

    Raze wrote:

    I still like the idea of a Hyundai Accent Spec Racing Series...

    It's a great idea, but it will end up like that Geo Metro rally class in the NW.

    It sounds good, but people want to race cool cars, not grocery getters.

  • pinchvalve

    Sept. 30, 2010 7:47 a.m. pinchvalve SuperDork

    Each team is equipped with a spec tool box: Duct Tape. Bailing Wire. Vice Grips. Screwdriver with bits stored in the handle. Socket set that you got free for opening a checking account. Large hammer. Bottle opener. Wire Coat Hanger. Knife. Assorted mis-matched nuts and bolts and screws laying in the bottom. Old french fries.

    I kept a '78 Cordoba and '77 Impala on the road for over 200,000 miles with that, so it should be more than enough for a 24-hour event.

  • Sept. 30, 2010 7:48 a.m. chuckles New Reader

    Best Thread Ever.

  • Sept. 30, 2010 8:12 a.m. tr8todd Reader

    What you propose is very similar to the early days of Improved Touring SCCA racing. There's a reason the rules have morphed into what they are today.

  • Sept. 30, 2010 8:20 a.m. mndsm Dork

    I'd vote to ban the Newport though. As demonstrated in multiple demolition derbies, you cannot kill those things. They'd win by brute force and attrition more than anything else.

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