Was there any T5 that had a cable clutch?
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April 8, 2009 10:08 p.m. mrdontplay Reader
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April 8, 2009 10:13 p.m. btp76 New Reader
All the fox body mustangs
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April 8, 2009 10:17 p.m. mrdontplay Reader
Need one that bolts to a 60 degree V6
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April 8, 2009 10:34 p.m. P71 Dork
All V6 fox and SN95 and New Edge Mustangs with T5's...
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April 8, 2009 10:38 p.m. ReverendDexter Reader
btp76 wrote:
All the fox body mustangs
For the moderately Mustang savvy, the fox chassis technically is '79-'04. SN95s were STILL fox chassis cars.
And, yes, all fox chassis cars with manuals are cable clutch.
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April 8, 2009 10:52 p.m. mrdontplay Reader
Is there a way to bolt them to a GM 2.8?
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April 8, 2009 11:25 p.m. ReverendDexter Reader
mrdontplay wrote:
Is there a way to bolt them to a GM 2.8?
I'm sure there is, considering that GM also used the T5 in the Camaro. I'd assume it would be as simple as getting the Camaro 2.8L bellhousing, and the Mustang clutch stuffs.
Spline count might bite you in the ass, though.
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April 9, 2009 8:52 a.m. P71 Dork
Not entirely true. The Thunderbird and Cougar were fox chassis for awhile and the 87-88 Turbo Coupe used a hydraulic clutch setup. All other fox-chassis manuals were cable clutch including the 83-86 Turbo Coupe.
Fox is 79-93 Mustang, the slightly revised SN95 94-98 Mustang, and the New Edge 99-04 Mustang, plus the Fairmont/Futura/etc, and the extended length fox on the 80-82 Thunderbird and Cougar and again for 83-88 Thunderbird and Cougar, and the Lincoln Mark VII.
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April 9, 2009 8:54 a.m. P71 Dork
Oh, why not just use the Camaro V6 T5 including hydraulic clutch? It's not that hard to convert cable pedals to the hydraulic unit.
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April 9, 2009 9:06 a.m. mrdontplay Reader
I wanted to use an S10 T5. I was just seeing if there was an easier way. I don't know how to convert it and I really don't want to pay someone else to do it.
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April 9, 2009 8:43 p.m. aussiesmg Dork
Cable clutches have inherent problems, they break frequently which is why most Mustang guys change those to hydraulic.
My S10 has a hydraulic set up for the T5.
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April 9, 2009 10:34 p.m. Shortcutsleeping New Reader
What transmission used does not really matter. The key is having a bellhousing that will bolt to your desired engine and provide a mount for your desired transmission while having an external actuator. Now, the actuator can be a bolt-on slave unit for a hydraulic setup, can be an arm mount for a mechanical lever type or a cable mount for a cable operated unit.
So, you have a gm 2.8v6 and you want to use a t5. Regardless of a WC F-body t5 or an s10 t5 (or a saginaw or a muncie or a t10, etc etc) the actuator type on the bellhousing is the key. All those transmissions will bolt up to the same mount pattern...but the key here is what vehicle you are putting it into and what setup is in that vehicle.
So...more info.
- what vehicle?
- does it have a clutch cable now?
Costas
cars and such...
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April 9, 2009 10:50 p.m. mrdontplay Reader
Chevette, it has a cable clutch
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April 9, 2009 11:56 p.m. Trans_Maro Reader
The T-5 from the f-body has a angled mounting in some years which might cause some trouble. It also has the torque arm mounts which can cause trouble when using a shifter other than the original.
Don't forget, Ford T5's use a different pilot bearing and different centering ring for the bellhousing
Shawn
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April 10, 2009 4:49 p.m. mrdontplay Reader
S10 would be the best for shifter location. How would I use a cable clutch?
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April 10, 2009 6:30 p.m. Trans_Maro Reader
Can you use a cable clutch fork froma Mustang T5 in the S-10 transmission?
Shawn
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April 10, 2009 7:30 p.m. aussiesmg Dork
Seriously why cable, most people change these to hydraulic for a reason, just use the Camaro master and slave, by the way my S10 is a 350 with T5
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April 10, 2009 7:43 p.m. Shortcutsleeping New Reader
Monza bellhousing (1975-1980, also skyhawk, sunbird or starfire) has cable clutch provisions but I'm not certain of the 2.8 bellhousing pattern. Is it the same as a smallblock?
Costas
cars and such...
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April 10, 2009 8:03 p.m. Trans_Maro Reader
No, it had the 60deg V6 pattern.
Shawn
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April 10, 2009 8:22 p.m. ww SuperDork
Here's a list of all T5 applications from the beginning through 1999.
http://www.kamikazeracing.org/dl/ZTech/BorgWarnerT5-applications.txt
Good luck!
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April 10, 2009 10:33 p.m. Shortcutsleeping New Reader
is the 60 deg v6 pattern the same as a buick v6? I suspect not since the buick is a 90deg motor...but I have no idea.
Costas
cars and such...
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April 10, 2009 10:55 p.m. Trans_Maro Reader
No, Buick V6 is B.O.P. pattern, no relation to later GM products.
Shawn
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April 11, 2009 7:37 p.m. wlkelley3 HalfDork
Early S-10 (like early 80's) use a cable operated clutch on the 5-speeds. Not sure if it's a T5 though. Popular upgrade on Opel GT's because of the cable operated clutch.
