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  • wherethefmi

    June 13, 2009 10:22 p.m. wherethefmi HalfDork

    Sooooo, my car A.D.D. is pretty bad right now, why do I not want a Passat W8, let's go over the highlights.

    1. Freaking cool engine.
    2. AWD as standard, with a 6 speed.

    And the low points.

    1. Freaking cool engine, and it's associated maintnance.
    2. Freaking cool engine hangs way out front.

    So what do you all think?

    Edit: why when I type 1. 2. I get 1. 1.

  • 2002maniac

    June 13, 2009 10:43 p.m. 2002maniac Reader

    RUN RUN RUN!

  • shuttlepilot

    June 13, 2009 11:26 p.m. shuttlepilot New Reader

    freaking cool engine in a ultra tight engine bay

    I suggest you run

  • wherethefmi

    June 13, 2009 11:46 p.m. wherethefmi HalfDork

    Now that's a good reason!!! I have big hands.

  • 02Pilot

    June 14, 2009 12:02 a.m. 02Pilot New Reader

    My mother has one. Lots of power, nice exhaust note. Did I mention lots of power? Heavy car, but still....

    Unfortunately they seem to suffer from two significant failures: the torque converter stops locking up (~$4000) and some sort of screens get sucked into the cam adjusters (~$11000). The CEL has tripped a couple times on hers for the former at ~75k miles. Intermittent fault, no driveability issues, but still a major consideration if you're considering buying one. Having driven it a good bit, I have to say that once you get past the power it is sort of underwhelming due to the weight and endless gobs of understeer.

  • bludroptop

    June 14, 2009 4:18 a.m. bludroptop Dork

    02Pilot wrote:

    Unfortunately they seem to suffer from two significant failures: the torque converter stops locking up (~$4000) and some sort of screens get sucked into the cam adjusters (~$11000).

    Eleven THOUSAND??

    Please tell me that's a typo.

  • wherethefmi

    June 14, 2009 4:50 a.m. wherethefmi HalfDork

    for 11K I think I'd just go buy another car.

  • Woody

    June 14, 2009 5:12 a.m. Woody SuperDork

    I remember that one of the magazines had one as a long term test car. They jokingly referred to it as the W8 as the "Wait": push the gas pedal and nothing happens for a while.

  • 02Pilot

    June 14, 2009 7:46 a.m. 02Pilot New Reader

    bludroptop wrote:

    02Pilot wrote:

    Unfortunately they seem to suffer from two significant failures: the torque converter stops locking up (~$4000) and some sort of screens get sucked into the cam adjusters (~$11000).

    Eleven THOUSAND??

    Please tell me that's a typo.

    Nope. The whole engine/transmission assembly has to be dropped and some extensive disassembly has to take place in order to replace the screens. Many, many hours of labor.

    Everything costs a ridiculous amount; when the electronically-controlled thermostat failed a while back it ran something like $1600 because it is buried under the intake manifold.

  • ManofFewWords

    June 14, 2009 8:15 a.m. ManofFewWords Reader

    I think these cars are super cool, but I would stay away from one unless it was under a fairly comprehensive warranty.

  • BAMF

    June 14, 2009 9:13 a.m. BAMF New Reader

    I read on this boards couple years ago that timing belts can go without warning and break your very expensive engine.

    I still like the idea of a manual Passat W8 wagon, perhaps in a nice green.

  • aussiesmg

    June 14, 2009 9:47 a.m. aussiesmg Dork

    Finding someone who knows these cars is going to be time consuming, them you pay enough for a cheap new car on repairs......runaway

  • MikeSVO

    June 14, 2009 9:54 a.m. MikeSVO Reader

    How the same company was building a mess like that and Bugs in Mexico at the same time is beyond me.

    Those ain't car-guy cars. They are cars that are meant to be owned under warranty.

  • DILYSI Dave

    June 14, 2009 2:33 p.m. DILYSI Dave UltimaDork

    Did you miss the part where it's a late model VW? Seems like a pretty good deterrent.

  • John Brown

    June 15, 2009 6:56 a.m. John Brown MegaDork

    2002maniac wrote:

    RUN RUN RUN!

    I can not eleventy billion this enough.

  • John Brown

    June 15, 2009 6:57 a.m. John Brown MegaDork

    MikeSVO wrote:

    How the same company was building a mess like that and Bugs in Mexico at the same time is beyond me.

    Those ain't car-guy cars. They are cars that are meant to be owned under warranty.

    I like Beetles, They are MKIV Jettas with headroom.

  • John Brown

    June 15, 2009 7:00 a.m. John Brown MegaDork

    bludroptop wrote:

    02Pilot wrote:

    Unfortunately they seem to suffer from two significant failures: the torque converter stops locking up (~$4000) and some sort of screens get sucked into the cam adjusters (~$11000).

    Eleven THOUSAND??

    Please tell me that's a typo.

    $14,344.50 with tax for a new engine as of 06.15.09

  • slefain

    June 15, 2009 8:28 a.m. slefain Dork

    I researched these cars a while ago and came to the conclusion: not even if someone GAVE it to me would I own one.

    This coming from an owner of 2 VWs. The wife's New Beetle goes to the dealership for EVERYTHING (I'm not touching it) and my Passat gets fixed by me when I feel like it. The Passat and I have an "understanding".

 

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