thats a giant bag of awesomeness
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March 16, 2010 2:02 p.m. patgizz SuperDork
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March 16, 2010 2:04 p.m. nocones Reader
I want to know more about the front roll bar. . (the watts link looking thing in the front). The way it looks like it works, it just resists all roll. This is not the best, so I'm thinking there is something more to it than that. The way It appears the only way it could work and allow roll is if the crank in the middle moves side to side during cornering. The bracket it is attached to has quite a few bolts in it, so it's possible that this is the case. Anyone have more pictures or insight to a anti roll bar linkage like that?
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March 16, 2010 2:24 p.m. pinchvalve UberDork
Where?
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March 16, 2010 2:26 p.m. 96DXCivic HalfDork
In reply to nocones:
That is a pretty standard setup of an anti-roll bar on a pushrod setup. If you look at Formula SAE, you will see several setups like that.
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March 16, 2010 2:27 p.m. 96DXCivic HalfDork
In reply to pinchvalve:
Look at the second picture in the original post. It is connected to the bellcranks.
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March 16, 2010 5:37 p.m. WilberM3 New Reader
nocones wrote:
I want to know more about the front roll bar. . (the watts link looking thing in the front). The way it looks like it works, it just resists all roll. This is not the best, so I'm thinking there is something more to it than that. The way It appears the only way it could work and allow roll is if the crank in the middle moves side to side during cornering. The bracket it is attached to has quite a few bolts in it, so it's possible that this is the case. Anyone have more pictures or insight to a anti roll bar linkage like that?
looks like instead of adding another spring (bar) it just uses the inside corner's spring against the upward motion of the outside's. looks a lot lighter and you wouldnt have an ugly swaybar hanging off the bottom of the suspension
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March 16, 2010 7:52 p.m. Appleseed Dork
There hasn't been a pure 32 since John Milner was killed. And even his 32 wasn't proportioned right. There is nothing wrong on a 32 because everything's been done to a 32. I see nothing wrong with that car.
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March 16, 2010 10:30 p.m. GPDren New Reader
I love the car and I love that you guys do too. Not too many snobs around here are there?
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March 17, 2010 12:38 a.m. nocones Reader
Ahh, I see. In one wheel bump it actually tries to pull the other wheel off the ground. Or put another way during cornering it doesn't allow the other wheel to droop. Basically it transfers all the load to the outside tire. It allows for no roll. I really thought it was more exotic than that. It sounds less than Ideal. We were going to use it on our FSAE car, but we had tested that that type of ARB and did not like the way it made the front end very suseptable to straight line instability. I'm fairly certian formula fords use that type of ARB so obviously it can be made fast. I thought maybe this guy had done something new and different. I mean with that particular thing, the car is amazing, I just was wondering about the ARB.
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March 17, 2010 12:53 a.m. mtn UltraDork
GPDren wrote:
I love the car and I love that you guys do too. Not too many snobs around here are there?
You must be new here. Lets see... Off the top of my head, I can think of people here who put a diesel in a miata, a subaru engine in a porsche, a rotary in a spitfire, a SBC in an E30.... the list goes on.
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March 17, 2010 1:18 a.m. Appleseed Dork
I'll amend that to "SBC in an anything."
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March 17, 2010 7:53 a.m. neon4891 UberDork
Volvo is part of Ford, for now atleast, so it is still "in family"
I approve
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March 17, 2010 9:20 a.m. ultraclyde Reader
I wondered why the volvo, then I saw Sweden. Oh. I love this kind of thing. I've dreamed of building a lightweight fiberglass highboy 32 with an sr20det or stook drivetrain. Then hoon it to maximum effect.
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March 17, 2010 9:20 a.m. JoeyM Reader
neon4891 wrote:
The swap done the other way - ford powerplant into a volvo body - works too. Don't forget how fun Greg's volvo station wagon with the mustang drivetrain is.Volvo is part of Ford, for now atleast, so it is still "in family"
I approve
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March 17, 2010 9:28 a.m. tuna55 HalfDork
Want one, badly. What's cool is that the second car pictured, if I remember, is actually a Volvo anyway!
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March 17, 2010 11:39 a.m. turboswede UltraDork
nocones wrote:
Ahh, I see. In one wheel bump it actually tries to pull the other wheel off the ground. Or put another way during cornering it doesn't allow the other wheel to droop. Basically it transfers all the load to the outside tire. It allows for no roll. I really thought it was more exotic than that. It sounds less than Ideal. We were going to use it on our FSAE car, but we had tested that that type of ARB and did not like the way it made the front end very suseptable to straight line instability. I'm fairly certian formula fords use that type of ARB so obviously it can be made fast. I thought maybe this guy had done something new and different. I mean with that particular thing, the car is amazing, I just was wondering about the ARB.
Looks like it would work like a regular ARB would, both solutions try to correct the body roll by pulling upwards on the inside wheel in a corner. The difference is that on the car here and other cars as describer, it is a solid link versus a solution with a specific spring rate applied to it.
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March 17, 2010 9:12 p.m. plance1 HalfDork
purists suck
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March 17, 2010 9:45 p.m. MrJoshua UltraDork
mtn wrote:
GPDren wrote:
I love the car and I love that you guys do too. Not too many snobs around here are there?
You must be new here. Lets see... Off the top of my head, I can think of people here who put a diesel in a miata, a subaru engine in a porsche, a rotary in a spitfire, a SBC in an E30.... the list goes on.
Ive been involved in 2 out of 4.
