Alan Cesar Associate Editor
April 5, 2012 9:53 a.m.

We were shopping around this morning and found out that Tire Rack is now stocking Toyo R1Rs. I know I ran circles around other drivers in STS who had Azenis or other tires. Love that rubber.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Toyo&tireModel=Proxes+R1R

mr2peak Reader
April 5, 2012 10:04 a.m.

Just remember to buy them through the add links on the board!

NOHOME HalfDork
April 5, 2012 10:04 a.m.

Been running Azenis on my two Proteges and the MGB for 4 years now. Going to need new rubber when the FRS arrives; anyone have any real experience with running these as DD 3 season tires as compared to the Azenis?

Keith MegaDork
April 5, 2012 10:05 a.m.

I've run them in a hurricane. Good wet and cold grip. Never run the Azenis in a hurricane.

Alan Cesar Associate Editor
April 5, 2012 10:09 a.m.

I can't attest to noise (my Miata makes so many other noises that I'd never notice loud tires), but they drive well and handle Florida's rainy season just fine—even with little tread left. I also road-tripped from Chicago to Florida on them with no complaints. Excellent steering feel and response.

Mine are nearly bald now and the wheels they're on are bent, so I bought a couple pieces of glass and made end tables.

92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
April 5, 2012 10:10 a.m.

MY KINGDOM FOR A 245/45-16. TAKE MY MONEY.

The 245/35-17 is interesting, though.

Gearheadotaku SuperDork
April 5, 2012 10:29 a.m.

How do these compare to the Hankook RS3?

Keith MegaDork
April 5, 2012 10:35 a.m.

Some magazine did a series of tire tests that compared the Hankook and the R1R

Looking at the Tire Rack site, they're also carrying the RA1 and the R888. When you consider that mounting and balancing is included, it's got the potential to save people a chunk of money. Nice!

HStockSolo Reader
April 5, 2012 10:35 a.m.
Gearheadotaku wrote: How do these compare to the Hankook RS3?

Very different from the RS-3s other than both being very grippy. R1Rs like cold and do much better with water. Easy to overheat. They are more similar to Star Specs--like a very fast wearing Star Spec. The larger sizes have a dual compound (harder, less sticky compound underneath), so don't shave them. They come in some unique sizes like 245/35R17 already mentioned.

Osterkraut UltraDork
April 5, 2012 10:55 a.m.

Wait Tire Rack stocks Toyos now? Excellent! Now all the need is Falkens.

Josh Dork
April 5, 2012 11:22 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: MY KINGDOM FOR A 245/45-16. TAKE MY MONEY.

Those would be very, very useful for a street-tire-stock S2000.

92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
April 5, 2012 11:37 a.m.
Josh wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: MY KINGDOM FOR A 245/45-16. TAKE MY MONEY.

Those would be very, very useful for a street-tire-stock S2000.

They used to be made by Hankook and Falken in the RS2s and RT615s, respectively. No longer.

And like an idiot, i now have TWO cars that this size is damn near perfect for. (Well, one could really use a 245/40-16 or a 255/40-16, but now i'm just getting greedy.)

carguy123 PowerDork
April 5, 2012 11:41 a.m.

Forgive my ignorance, but isn't the R1R more of a street tire than say the RA1?

I'm inferring that from the comment about it being a faster wearing Star Spec.

92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
April 5, 2012 11:42 a.m.
carguy123 wrote: Forgive my ignorance, but isn't the R1R more of a street tire than say the RA1? I'm inferring that from the comment about it being a faster wearing Star Spec.

It is more of a street tire than the RA1. Still wears faster than a Star Spec.

carguy123 PowerDork
April 5, 2012 12:32 p.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: It is more of a street tire than the RA1. Still wears faster than a Star Spec.

I don't get it, why bother then?

HStockSolo Reader
April 5, 2012 12:53 p.m.

Because it wins national street tire autocross trophies, and Toyo pays contingencies?

Some autocrossers are running mixed tire sets with R1Rs out back and more heat tolerant tires on the harder working front end. R1Rs are also used as rain/cold tires, but they aren't the best choice for that use.

e_pie Reader
April 5, 2012 1:03 p.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
Josh wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: MY KINGDOM FOR A 245/45-16. TAKE MY MONEY.

Those would be very, very useful for a street-tire-stock S2000.

They used to be made by Hankook and Falken in the RS2s and RT615s, respectively. No longer.

And like an idiot, i now have TWO cars that this size is damn near perfect for. (Well, one could really use a 245/40-16 or a 255/40-16, but now i'm just getting greedy.)

I just don't understand the lack of tire selection for 16" wheels. You can get everything under the sun in 15" and 17", why no 16" love. :(

DaveEstey Dork
April 5, 2012 1:03 p.m.
carguy123 wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: It is more of a street tire than the RA1. Still wears faster than a Star Spec.

I don't get it, why bother then?

Because R1R's are legal for street tire classes and RA1s aren't. RA1s are considered an R-Compound tire, same as R888s.

Alan Cesar Associate Editor
April 5, 2012 1:09 p.m.
DaveEstey wrote:
carguy123 wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: It is more of a street tire than the RA1. Still wears faster than a Star Spec.

I don't get it, why bother then?

Because R1R's are legal for street tire classes and RA1s aren't. RA1s are considered an R-Compound tire, same as R888s.

Exactly. Treadwear rating 140 = ST and STS-class darling.

carguy123 PowerDork
April 5, 2012 1:10 p.m.
Alan Cesar wrote:
DaveEstey wrote:
carguy123 wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: It is more of a street tire than the RA1. Still wears faster than a Star Spec.

I don't get it, why bother then?

Because R1R's are legal for street tire classes and RA1s aren't. RA1s are considered an R-Compound tire, same as R888s.

Exactly. Treadwear rating 140 = ST and STS-class darling.

Why not just use the Star Specs, except for the contingency money aspect?

NOHOME HalfDork
April 5, 2012 1:16 p.m.
Keith wrote: I've run them in a hurricane. Good wet and cold grip. Never run the Azenis in a hurricane.

Keith, you gotta get over that. Wha you perceive as a hurricane is just another fine day in Newfie land!

mw HalfDork
April 5, 2012 1:17 p.m.

The toyos are faster on an sts or stc car.

92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
April 5, 2012 1:17 p.m.
e_pie wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
Josh wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: MY KINGDOM FOR A 245/45-16. TAKE MY MONEY.

Those would be very, very useful for a street-tire-stock S2000.

They used to be made by Hankook and Falken in the RS2s and RT615s, respectively. No longer.

And like an idiot, i now have TWO cars that this size is damn near perfect for. (Well, one could really use a 245/40-16 or a 255/40-16, but now i'm just getting greedy.)

I just don't understand the lack of tire selection for 16" wheels. You can get everything under the sun in 15" and 17", why no 16" love. :(

I honestly find the selection for 15" pretty maddening as well, to be honest.

92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
April 5, 2012 1:17 p.m.
carguy123 wrote:
Alan Cesar wrote:
DaveEstey wrote:
carguy123 wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: It is more of a street tire than the RA1. Still wears faster than a Star Spec.

I don't get it, why bother then?

Because R1R's are legal for street tire classes and RA1s aren't. RA1s are considered an R-Compound tire, same as R888s.

Exactly. Treadwear rating 140 = ST and STS-class darling.

Why not just use the Star Specs, except for the contingency money aspect?

Because they're slower.

Maroon92 MegaDork
April 5, 2012 1:25 p.m.

I may have to get a set for the 944... The price is...enticing.

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