Take one miniature Kubota 4wd tractor, place Fiat 850 body over it. Remove diesel, remove heavy axels, add spinning triangles power, and Justy half-shafts.
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Nov. 20, 2010 1:39 p.m. triumph5 HalfDork
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Nov. 20, 2010 3:16 p.m. Spinout007 Dork
Now find that in challenge budget.
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Nov. 21, 2010 8:09 a.m. Javelin SuperDork
pres589 wrote:
In reply to Javelin:
How would you remove the AMC motor from an SX/4 and keep the AWD without a whole pile of engineering? I mean, with the right time, skills and tools I'm sure you could do something pretty groovy but come on.
It uses a transfer case on the end of the trans, which will either be a T-5 derivative (which bolts to nearly anything), or a 904-type auto, which can also bolt up to a lot of applications (Chrysler). If your plans don't involve domestic engines or anything familiar with a T-5, you can always attempt to bolt the transfer case to whatever trans you are working with. Or if you went really nuts and already had a longitudinal engine/trans from and AWD you could weld them in and make custom driveshafts and be done. You'd be amazed at the bizarre engine swaps some Eagle guys do.
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Nov. 21, 2010 11:41 a.m. Spinout007 Dork
It has merit but as Mr.Joshua stated independent suspension is a must. I failed to mention that somewhere.
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Nov. 21, 2010 12:48 p.m. Javelin SuperDork
Spinout007 wrote:
It has merit but as Mr.Joshua stated independent suspension is a must. I failed to mention that somewhere.
Que? AMC Eagle's have Independent front suspension. You only have a stick in the back.
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Nov. 21, 2010 5:40 p.m. Spinout007 Dork
For it work it MUST have 4 independent axles. I know its a pain right. I like the look of the sx/4 the stick out back makes it a no go.
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Nov. 21, 2010 6:49 p.m. AngryCorvair SuperDork
suzuki x-90?
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Nov. 21, 2010 7:05 p.m. mndsm Dork
AutoXR wrote:
Find a small car and use 4 Wheeler parts to make it awd. This is what I plan to do with my Velam Isetta
I saw exactly the opposite. Speed shop I know took a Yamaha Rhino or equivalent side by side and dropped a turbo d16 in it. Looked like it belonged there.
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Nov. 21, 2010 7:05 p.m. MrJoshua SuperDork
Looks like they have a solid axle rear as well.
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Nov. 21, 2010 7:22 p.m. Javelin SuperDork
Spinout007 wrote:
For it work it MUST have 4 independent axles. I know its a pain right. I like the look of the sx/4 the stick out back makes it a no go.
So weld in the IRS from a MN12 Thunderbird (89-97). They're practically free, have disc brakes, and have a nice center chunk with good gears.
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Nov. 21, 2010 7:34 p.m. MrJoshua SuperDork
In reply to Javelin:
We are trying to avoid fabricating suspension stuff on this theoretical exercise.
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Nov. 21, 2010 7:52 p.m. Mikey52_1 HalfDork
So far, I haven't seen a requirement for this to be a front engine, longitudinally arranged drivetrain. How about engine/trans from a FWD, (or a bike?) turned 90 degrees. This puts the normal axleshafts lengthwise. Extend them to each drive axle, chosen 1), for availability, and 2), for weight/strength. Two Tracker frontaxles, with one set up for straight ahead driving, and the second to act in its normal position as 'front, steering axle', come to mind.
Chose 3.0-ish gearing for the axles and whatever is handy for the tranny gearing. This eliminates the transfer case, dumps a bunch of potential weight from the design and sets it up for high revs for a possibility of long, no-shift torque curves. No shifting thru a course of cones, only lifting the right foot to match needs, with wants, torquewise.
There. Continue as you will...
