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  • Sept. 6, 2009 11:22 p.m. Nashco SuperDork

    I'm getting very close to committing guys, just need to come up with a couple hundred more bucks to cover the costs of shipping the car down and back. I'm hoping some stuff I've got for sale will solve that soon. No need to trailer anything or turn any wrenches once it gets there, it will be ready for driving and competition once I get it back from the transporter. After 3000+ miles on a transporter, it will need a thorough detail, but I'm hoping that is all I have to do down there.

    Thanks for the offers guys, hopefully more updates coming soon!

    Bryce

  • Sept. 8, 2009 12:48 p.m. Nashco SuperDork

    Alright, it's official, the Fiero will be at the REAL $2009 challenge. The donations are greatly appreciated guys, I'm really impressed and flattered that so many of you care enough to speak with your pocketbooks. I'm still shy a bit towards the transport costs, but I'll find a way to pay for it by the time the bill comes my way. IMO, this is literally what a grassroots movement is all about, so I think it's fitting to have the Fiero in the Grassroots Motorsports challenge.

    I booked the transporter today, the car will arrive in Orlando in the week prior to the challenge. Jessica and I have our flights booked to arrive Wednesday night and leave Monday, so we won't miss any of the action. If anybody in Orlando is reading this and would be willing to help me get the car out of the transporter's lot, shoot me a message. This will be really simple, all you will have to do is pick up the car during business hours and either hold on to it or park it somewhere safe, as I won't arrive into town until a few hours after they close. Don't worry, it drives just like a regular Fiero when the batteries are disconnected, and they will be disconnected during transport.

    I have been continuing to whip the Fiero into shape. The wiring continues to get stripped down and cleaned up, removing as much unnecessary clutter as possible. I also have my new coolant plumbing 80% done, which will free up a bunch of money in the budget and clean up under the hood. Jessica figured out how to reinstall as much of the stock interior as possible yesterday, which will help hide more of the batteries and give the car a more finished look inside. I've also been doing lots and lots of little details all over the car to iron out all of the details that I didn't have time for before San Diego.

    I'm hoping to have some update pictures in the next few days with "finished" under hood pictures. Of course, it's never really finished, but it will be finished for now aside from cleaning/detailing. I was out of town for most of the weekend and will be again next weekend, so unfortunately the only way I'm making any more progress is by working on the Fiero during "second and third" shift. It ships out in ten days, so the clock is ticking...

    Bryce

  • aussiesmg

    Sept. 8, 2009 1:12 p.m. aussiesmg Dork

    Woot woot I really want to see this car, great to have you aboard Bryce

  • MrJoshua

    Sept. 8, 2009 1:23 p.m. MrJoshua SuperDork

    Very cool!

  • kreb

    Sept. 8, 2009 2:46 p.m. kreb Dork

    Yeah baby!

    Things have looked up a bit since sitting out on that lonely San Diego drag strip, eh?

    I came close to offering a ride in my dad's transporter. He'd probably be cool with it, but I promised the missus that our next vacation would be to the tropics, not a cross-country slog.

    I wonder if there's enough time to swap that V-6 for a SBC?

    Well all I can say at this point is.....kick some East Coast ass for us, OK?

  • Sept. 8, 2009 6:29 p.m. Nashco SuperDork

    No time for engine swaps, unfortunately. Given more resources, I've got about a half dozen options to pick up 50-100 horsepower without going over budget. I could also lose about 150 pounds given more time. Shoulda, coulda, woulda! The way I see things, it's a lot better to show with untapped potential than it is to watch from a distance and tell people what I "could" build.

    Bryce

  • alfadriver

    Sept. 9, 2009 7:07 a.m. alfadriver HalfDork

    Nashco wrote:

    No time for engine swaps, unfortunately. Given more resources, I've got about a half dozen options to pick up 50-100 horsepower without going over budget. I could also lose about 150 pounds given more time. Shoulda, coulda, woulda! The way I see things, it's a lot better to show with untapped potential than it is to watch from a distance and tell people what I "could" build.

    Bryce

    Thtat's why every Challenger should be on a 3 year plan for a given car. Some are talented enough to do it in one, but IMHO, 3 is a good length to optimize.

    Eric

  • Debbie Brozyna

    Sept. 9, 2009 8:12 a.m. Debbie Brozyna Assistant to the Publisher

    Nashco - PM sent

    Debbie

  • miatame2

    Sept. 9, 2009 9:26 a.m. miatame2 New Reader

    alfadriver wrote: Thtat's why every Challenger should be on a 3 year plan for a given car. Some are talented enough to do it in one, but IMHO, 3 is a good length to optimize.

    Eric

    You mean 3 week plan right? Yeah, thought so. That's the plan I'm on! yippee!

  • Sept. 9, 2009 12:47 p.m. Nashco SuperDork

    I did some more wire-reduction on the (stock) interior harness last night and came up with a game plan for my new EV switch layout and wire routing. Tonight I'm hoping to finish stripping the stock wiring, reinstall the EV wiring, and finish the EV cooling system with the new tubes I made. Looks like another late night in the garage!

    alfadriver wrote:

    Thtat's why every Challenger should be on a 3 year plan for a given car. Some are talented enough to do it in one, but IMHO, 3 is a good length to optimize.

    Eric

    3 YEAR plan? I don't have nearly the attention span necessary to reuse this same car for three years. Perhaps I'm running an accelerated development plan doing two $2009 events in less than three months?

    Bryce

  • keethrax

    Sept. 9, 2009 1:01 p.m. keethrax New Reader

    Nashco wrote:

    3 YEAR plan? I don't have nearly the attention span necessary to reuse this same car for three years. Perhaps I'm running an accelerated development plan doing two $2009 events in less than three months?

    Bryce

    I'm on a three (I hope) year plan. But years 1 through 2.5 involve redoing the garage...

  • alfadriver

    Sept. 9, 2009 1:35 p.m. alfadriver HalfDork

    While I know most of you are joking pretty heavily, let me assure you that Challenges 2 and 3 are much more relaxing that 1 for a given car. I remember the crash we did to finish our car before the 2002 Challenge- 6 hours post work every day, between 3 people, and 6-7 more on weekends. The car turned out great.

    Challenge 2 was a lot easier- take out motor, dress engine compartment, clean and dress car, re- assemble. drive it and sort it a lot.

    Challenge 3- same as 2, but less of it. drive it more, and sort it more.

    Thanks to that schedule, we finished top 10 three times, and got FTD at the autocross the third time after grenading our trans at the drag strip.

    I got the opinion that GRM appreciated the return cars as much as the first timers. Especially the odd balls like Alfas. Trust me when I say this, Bryce, Per is going to do his best to make sure you bring that back (besides my car, I'll use Angry's 2nd 'vair as another example of sorting making them happy).

    When you get back to the NW, sit on the car for a few months before doing anything. It lets the angst get forgotten and the potential resurfaces.

    Eric

  • AngryCorvair

    Sept. 9, 2009 2:45 p.m. AngryCorvair SuperDork

    Nelson Fiat Part 2 is another good example, as is the yellow Hong CRX, the Gutty CRX, the Mini-Me Silver Bullet, and probably a bunch more that I don't remember right now...

  • John Brown

    Sept. 9, 2009 4:50 p.m. John Brown MegaDork

    Merkurs do not return well.

  • bluej

    Sept. 9, 2009 6:57 p.m. bluej HalfDork

    alfadriver wrote:

    Nashco wrote:

    No time for engine swaps, unfortunately. Given more resources, I've got about a half dozen options to pick up 50-100 horsepower without going over budget. I could also lose about 150 pounds given more time. Shoulda, coulda, woulda! The way I see things, it's a lot better to show with untapped potential than it is to watch from a distance and tell people what I "could" build.

    Bryce

    Thtat's why every Challenger should be on a 3 year plan for a given car. Some are talented enough to do it in one, but IMHO, 3 is a good length to optimize.

    Eric

    Spot on. very spot on. Wish I could be there to see it Bryce, but congrats on all you've achieved.

  • ww

    Sept. 9, 2009 11:12 p.m. ww SuperDork

    3 YEAR plan? I don't have nearly the attention span necessary to reuse this same car for three years. Perhaps I'm running an accelerated development plan doing two $2009 events in less than three months? Bryce

    Seriously, look at his stable of cars, he's totally ADD... ;)

    '69 Bug | '05 Saabaru | '95 Impreza | '67 122S | '07 Sky Redline | $2009 West/East Coast - AWD Fiero Hybrid

  • alfadriver

    Sept. 10, 2009 7:07 a.m. alfadriver HalfDork

    John Brown wrote:

    Merkurs do not return well.

    Just to prod you in the side, (getting off topic of this WAY COOL CAR) you should check out the JUST FINISHED results for the SCCA Solo national, class DSP....

    (and note that OUR car was slower than the Spider that competed in this competition- they went head to head a couple of times. Ok, so prod with a cattle prod)

    E-

  • John Brown

    Sept. 10, 2009 7:16 a.m. John Brown MegaDork

    Eric, lets face it... Me blaming the car is on par with The space program blaming a Twinkie for the space shuttle not launching.

  • alfadriver

    Sept. 10, 2009 9:25 a.m. alfadriver HalfDork

    John Brown wrote:

    Eric, lets face it... Me blaming the car is on par with The space program blaming a Twinkie for the space shuttle not launching.

    Good point. But the Merkur IS a car you are familiar with, can get reasonably easily, know what parts are worthless for a challenge, and probably can figure out how to copy.

    I think it would be cool to bring back some of the original challenge kind of cars to see if they can be competetive again. With the right work.

    If I could find 4-5 other people to do most of the work I've got the ideas for a pretty simple Spider. Haven't you always wanted an Alfa?

    Bryce- I'm really happy that you are going- and I very much look forward to reading the article about the build, and the technology in the car. If you ask me, the Best Engineered award has been decided upon already. But that would require asking me....

    E-

  • Sept. 11, 2009 4:35 a.m. Nashco SuperDork

    Well, I feel like I'm past due for an update. Most of the work I've been doing lately won't really be noticed once it's done, but as I've said before in this build, that's the point. I want things to look like that's just how they were supposed to be from the factory even if it means a lot more effort. One of the more time consuming "invisible" projects has been decontenting the wiring. Most of this has been for the stock Fiero harness, since I've got rid of TONS of stuff on the car that means I get to delete tons of wiring. The car has just enough electrical stuff left to function as a street car, but that's it. Sure, the weight loss is nice, but this is mostly to reduce visible clutter that used to be invisible...stuff like the harness that used to hide out behind the dash that is now displaced by batteries. Here's one of many piles of wiring I've created:


    You guys that have stripped down a modern wire harness know how much of a hassle this is. Here's a shot of some of the EV wiring that is being added to the front end of the car:


    Since I'm modifying the harness to fit, there are a lot of splices where I've eliminated inline connectors or stretched wires. I think Jessica and I have probably done something like 80 splices on the car, fortunately we're getting the process down pretty well. Those of you with keen eyes will also catch some work in progress in the backgroun. The sheet metal is part of the battery box, which is required to meet NHRA requirements for the batteries in the interior...the sheet metal is super cheap stuff sourced for home HVAC ductwork. The aluminum tubes on top of the motor are new replacements for the hodge-podge rubber hoses I had before and are not only more robust but also significantly cheaper...the tubing only cost me a couple bucks as it was previously a clothes hanging rod from a Linens and Things that was going out of business.

    Here's the latest bundle of wiring under the dash:


    It looks like a disaster, but this is actually a huge improvement from the bundle I was dealing with a few weeks ago. For reference, the EV wiring is in the blue zip ties under the pedals, that huge bundle under the steering column is original GM stuff. Slowly, these harnesses are getting picked through, modified, and rerouted until they start to cleanly fit into the available spaces.

    I was going through our pictures from the drive down to San Diego and got a kick out of this one:


    This embodies everything that I love and hate about driving in SoCal. I love the beautiful beaches, great roads along the coast, and the usually great weather. Traffic, on the other hand, is enough to make you go nuts. That's Rick driving in front of me in the G37, Chris was driving behind me in his Miata.

    More progress updates next week. I'm running out of time before this thing gets put on a transporter so I have to stop taking things apart to "fix" them. I swear, I've had just about everything on this car apart and back together about ten times.

    Bryce

  • Sept. 11, 2009 4:39 a.m. Nashco SuperDork

    ww wrote:

    Seriously, look at his stable of cars, he's totally ADD... ;)

    Yup, I tend to go through cars like water. I have a weakness for interesting projects and like all types of vehicles, so the fleet is constantly fluctuating.

    Bryce

  • aussiesmg

    Sept. 11, 2009 4:57 a.m. aussiesmg SuperDork

    I also suffer from this affliction, current count is 14 cars

  • P71

    Sept. 11, 2009 8:18 a.m. P71 SuperDork

    Bryce,

    We still good for Sunday afternoon detailing? I've got the polisher all packed up.

  • Sept. 11, 2009 11:29 a.m. Nashco SuperDork

    P71 wrote:

    Bryce,

    We still good for Sunday afternoon detailing? I've got the polisher all packed up.

    I don't think I'm going to be able to swing it, unfortunately. I'm out of town (again) and I can only work on it during the weeknights. The car ships out next Friday, so it looks like I'll just be doing it the ol' fashioned way...with a bunch of elbow grease in a hotel parking lot in Gainesville. Thanks for the offer, I just can't make the timing work out.

    Bryce

  • Sept. 11, 2009 8:24 p.m. Mallard

    Bryce,

    I read about your car on AutoBlog a while ago and had no idea it was you. I should have known when I saw it was a Fiero though! Looks like one heck of a project! It's truly an accomplishment to have the car running.

    Good luck in FL! I did the $2005 Challenge and had a blast.

    Phil (Not sure if you remember me, but we went to college together ;P)

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