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  • dean1484

    Sept. 11, 2011 5:39 p.m. dean1484 SuperDork

    This is just nuts. These locate the rear end of the truck. Even better they are covered in a plastic coating so unless you are really looking for this it will just look like a bit of surface rust until you poke it with a screwdriver!!!!!

    I am surprised that this has not resulted in some accidents. Have one or both of these let go while at speed and bad things could happen.

    AND

    The bolt on the drivers side was put in before the gas tank. This means getting it out is a serious PITA. Why dont they just put the bolt in from the other side? It would make changing these things not require that you do one of the two following options.

    1 remove the gas tank (saves bolt but a serious PITA)

    1. Cut bolt with sazall (can not use a torch as you are with in an inch of the plastic gas tank). Obviously this means you have to get a new bolt.

    I have been a ford guy for a long time but this makes me wonder just what they are thinking. Or if they are really thinking.

    Then there is the replacement cost. dealer cost is about 150-200 each. Aftermarket box tube serviceable units are about 550 a set.

    I am thinking of cutting on of them apart removing the center section. Then take a piece of 1x2 tube steel. use a hole saw and make the proper cut at each end. Bevel the edges and weld together. I would do one at a time that way I can use the 2nd one as a jig to get the length correct. Using the bolts to hold the end pieces in place while fitting the center section. The overall length of the par is not absolutely critical but making sure that the pair are of equal length is. The only thing stopping me is that I am not sure how to protect the bushings while welding.

    I bet I can make a set for less than $30

  • Sept. 11, 2011 5:52 p.m. Knurled HalfDork

    What are you complaining about? Those are 11 years old already.

    I had an '07 Liberty that folded one in half. (To work on. I wouldn't own one of those if someone paid me to do it)

  • Trans_Maro

    Sept. 11, 2011 5:53 p.m. Trans_Maro Dork

    Welcome to the modern automobile.

    It's out of warranty, why should they be concerned?

    If you're making your own, why not buy new bushings while you're at it. Then you won't have to go back in again in a couple years. The old ones are 11 years old already.

    Shawn

  • NOHOME

    Sept. 11, 2011 6:02 p.m. NOHOME HalfDork

    Just when I finish eating crow and decide to take a flier on a domestic after 35 years, you come along with this...

    And I will be driving the car year round with salt and all!

  • Sept. 11, 2011 6:08 p.m. Knurled HalfDork

    In reply to NOHOME:

    Don't worry. Subaru just issued a recall regarding front control arms rusting to the point of collapse, and I've seen Maximas still being paid for that had carpet falling through where floor should be.

  • mad_machine

    Sept. 11, 2011 6:15 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    wonder if you would be better off going tubular?

    If you drop the tank now.. might as well do the fuel pump while you are there.. They inevitably fail when the tank is full and you need to drop it anyway

  • dean1484

    Sept. 11, 2011 6:23 p.m. dean1484 SuperDork

    I am going to try my had at making a set with the old bushings and if it goes well and now that I have the bolts out and reversed swapping in a new set with new bushings will be a 30 min job. I just measured things up and drew up the pieces I will need cut from the tube steel in AUTOCad. I am going to email it to my local fab/welding shop then it is just a mater of cutting the old ones apart cleaning them up and welding them to the new center sections.

  • dean1484

    Sept. 11, 2011 6:25 p.m. dean1484 SuperDork

    $150 ???? This should be a $30 part from Dorman. I looked at rock auto and it was a no go. Not stocked.

  • Sept. 11, 2011 6:25 p.m. fasted58 Dork

    +1 for tubular

  • aussiesmg

    Sept. 11, 2011 6:31 p.m. aussiesmg SuperDork

    Oh crap, another thing to check on the rustwagon

  • dean1484

    Sept. 11, 2011 6:33 p.m. dean1484 SuperDork

    It really is a simple part. Drill two 2 1/2" holes on the 2" wide side of 1"x2" 1/8" wall tube steel at 20 3/8" on center.

  • dean1484

    Sept. 11, 2011 6:35 p.m. dean1484 SuperDork

    I want to get 200K from this truck but I have a feeling one day I will come out and find a big pile of rust in the driveway.

  • Toyman01

    Sept. 11, 2011 6:37 p.m. Toyman01 SuperDork

    I'm betting the bolts were in that way to keep the tip of the bolt from puncturing the tank in a crash.

    I'm surprised to see that stuff rust like that. +1 for building them. It shouldn't take long. A little POR15 and they should last longer than the rest of the truck.

  • aussiesmg

    Sept. 11, 2011 6:37 p.m. aussiesmg SuperDork

    I have 210K on my 97 already and its in Ohio, so hold out it might surprise you

    Photobucket

  • DrBoost

    Sept. 11, 2011 7:10 p.m. DrBoost SuperDork

    I hate to be THAT guy, but those aren't drag links. Those are control arms, drag links are in the steering system.

  • dean1484

    Sept. 11, 2011 8:38 p.m. dean1484 SuperDork

    DrBoost wrote:

    I hate to be THAT guy, but those aren't drag links. Those are control arms, drag links are in the steering system.

    Ok I learned something!!

  • dean1484

    Sept. 11, 2011 8:40 p.m. dean1484 SuperDork

    I am actually thinking of cold galv then prime, paint and then rubberized undercoating.

  • Zomby woof

    Sept. 11, 2011 8:42 p.m. Zomby woof SuperDork

    DrBoost wrote:

    I hate to be THAT guy, but those aren't drag links. Those are control arms, drag links are in the steering system.

    I think you really want to be that guy

  • Mazdax605

    Sept. 11, 2011 8:57 p.m. Mazdax605 Dork

    Welcome to New England,Dean! Seriously is this surprising to you? Not me,this damn salt is hell on vehicles. You have been here in the salt box for long enough to not be surprised by this.

  • dean1484

    Sept. 11, 2011 9:04 p.m. dean1484 SuperDork

    Been here most of my life and I have never seen critical suspension parts rust like that. My RX7's were not this bad... . . Well ok my 84 was bad but it was 16 years older.

  • Aeromoto

    Sept. 11, 2011 9:25 p.m. Aeromoto New Reader

    Wow! Move South!

  • BoostedBrandon

    Sept. 11, 2011 9:52 p.m. BoostedBrandon Reader

    My friend's 2000 expedition has this problem, driver side has already rusted in two near the front and the passenger side is barely holding on.

  • ProDarwin

    Sept. 11, 2011 9:54 p.m. ProDarwin Dork

    This sort-of surprises me.
    Surprising that it happened, no. To a domestic, yes.

    All of my Japanese cars have been 100x as rust prone as my domestics have been. Even the not-so-old ones.

    If you can fab them easily, go for it. Personally, if I were to fab them, I'd put in new bushings. I would strongly consider just buying some aftermarket kit and being done with it though.

  • Appleseed

    Sept. 11, 2011 11:59 p.m. Appleseed SuperDork

    Just don't cover them in bacon OEM style.

  • novaderrik

    Sept. 12, 2011 12:29 a.m. novaderrik Dork

    i bet they were powdercoated because it was cheap and easy- and it's one reason i'm not a fan of powdercoating parts. paint just seems to "bite" into the metal better and doesn't flake off.

    also, it's a truck.. which means it's supposed to have leaf springs.. they rarely fall apart like that..

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