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dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
11/5/17 5:30 p.m.

That is not ugly it is custom. There is a big difference. smiley

Indy-Cougar-Guy
Indy-Cougar-Guy SuperDork
11/5/17 8:07 p.m.

In reply to dean1484 :

Go buy that !

 

Indy-Cougar-Guy
Indy-Cougar-Guy SuperDork
11/5/17 8:08 p.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

Awesome.  No way that one spent much time in Indiana, it doesn't have enough rust on it.

 

maschinenbau
maschinenbau Dork
12/21/17 10:09 a.m.

In my research for an optimal engine donor for the Datsun $2018 Challenge Wagon, I have computed a bunch of power:weight ratios for potential engine swaps. In every swap, I removed the weight of original engine, and assumed a 100 lb weight penalty from upgrading the rear axle to an 8.8, so that is factored in to vehicle weight. I am assuming I can make up any weight gain from trans swap by lightening the car in other ways.

Engine weights are to be taken with a big grain of salt, since most are from forums. And all power figures are advertised engine, not whp. Let me know if any of these numbers sound unreasonable. Also let me know what's missing from this list and I can add it. But it looks like if I want to stay N/A, which I do, a later model Inifiniti G35 would be the best donor. Most years of G35 get me into a good power:weight ratio, while keeping overall weight low for handling.

That VG30DETT line is from a nearby GRMer who is LS swapping his 300ZX, removing and selling a dyno-proven 285 whp V6 (scaled up for driveline losses). 

Edit: Updated with highest weight I've seen mentioned for VQ35, supposedly fully dressed with accessories

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ UltraDork
12/21/17 10:14 a.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

Is a VQ really only 340lbs?  I wonder if I could fit one in the rally car...

Robbie
Robbie PowerDork
12/21/17 10:40 a.m.

I also think that 340 number is fishy. Why not literbike?

pimpm3
pimpm3 SuperDork
12/21/17 11:38 a.m.

I found a v8 and transmission for my volvo...  details as soon as they are in my possession 

maschinenbau
maschinenbau Dork
12/21/17 11:38 a.m.

It does seem fishy. I have seen numbers as high as 375 lbs for a fully dressed VQ and as low as 270 lbs for a bare long block with no intake manifold. My wagon won't run power steering or A/C, so maybe 340 lbs is about right.

 

Robbie
Robbie PowerDork
12/21/17 12:05 p.m.

Well, it would seem the Honda j weighs 550 with all accessories, manual trans and axles, so 340 for the Nissan contemporary Nissan seems at least ballpark.

No link but search for the Honda engine weights article by super street.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau Dork
2/11/18 5:37 p.m.

Donor car acquired! A little front end damage, technically totaled, and questionable head gasket health. Game on, wagon class!

chada75
chada75 Reader
2/11/18 8:45 p.m.

In reply to Ovid_and_Flem :

This all day.

minivan_racer
minivan_racer UberDork
2/11/18 8:54 p.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

Shoot me a text when you are going to start working on it, I'll help if I work it out time wise and I can bring the cameras with me to help document.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau Dork
2/11/18 9:01 p.m.

I am planning to host a parking-lot-style build weekend later in spring, like Robbie did with his Saab ute. Epic times will be had! 

Robbie
Robbie PowerDork
2/11/18 9:08 p.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

Excellent!

maschinenbau
maschinenbau Dork
3/22/18 10:40 a.m.

Let's use this running list of $2018 Wagon Class competitors to keep us all accountable:

  • cafcwest - ???
  • Mazduece - Subaru Forester
  • maschinenbau - Datsun 210
  • pimpm3 - Volvo something?
  • eastsideTim - S10 with a camper top
  • Crackers - Rambler Wagon SC300 body swap
  • kiwimtnclmbr - Corolla wagon
  • EvanB - Opel Kadett

Who am I missing?

EvanB
EvanB MegaDork
3/22/18 10:43 a.m.

EvanB - Opel Kadett

eastsideTim
eastsideTim UltraDork
3/22/18 11:05 a.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

If I can find a camper top and keep it in budget :)

There's a GC chassis Outback Sport near my neighborhood that has been sitting for a few months ever since the owners bought a newer Impreza hatch.  I'm getting tempted to stick a note under the windshield, and see if they are interested in selling...

Stampie
Stampie UltraDork
3/22/18 12:15 p.m.

In reply to eastsideTim :

I know someone who has a topper being used as a storage shed near you.  Could be had very budget friendly. PM me if interested .

Ashyukun (Robert)
Ashyukun (Robert) UltraDork
3/22/18 12:55 p.m.

I should try and track down/build a cheap camper top for the Rampage. :P

eastsideTim
eastsideTim UltraDork
3/22/18 12:56 p.m.

In reply to Stampie :

My GRM account is linked to a Yahoo email address.  Can you please email me at ohiotim at     Hotmail

 

Robbie
Robbie PowerDork
3/22/18 2:11 p.m.
Ashyukun (Robert) said:

I should try and track down/build a cheap camper top for the Rampage. :P

Yeah, is that all I have to do for the Saab?

EvanB
EvanB MegaDork
3/22/18 2:43 p.m.

Just find a Saab wagon in the junkyard and cut the roof off. 

Then figure out how to make latches to quickly attach or remove it. 

maschinenbau
maschinenbau Dork
9/6/18 11:56 a.m.

ROLL CALL! Who is signed up for Wagon Class this year? 

EvanB
EvanB MegaDork
9/6/18 12:17 p.m.

Not me unfortunately. The Opel would not have been done in time with the amount of work it needs so I have been working on other projects and plan to do that one over the winter for next years challenge. 

maschinenbau
maschinenbau Dork
9/7/18 12:12 p.m.

Anyone...? ...Mueller?

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