Ransom
Ransom PowerDork
4/13/18 4:44 p.m.

I *definitely* want to add shoulder belts to the '63 Ranchero. There are bits to do this with a bit of welding, but A) the locations are iffy and maybe not ideal, and B) the stock seat's kind of awful, too, if aesthetically appropriate.

Seems like a lot of pickups (especially GM?) got integral shoulder belts for a while, but they're both ugly and probably way too big for the rather tight Ranchero cab.

JKB pointed out that convertibles sometimes might've had them. I thought "Aha!"

Then I thought "I don't want to start with the Wikipedia entry on U.S.-market convertibles since 1990!"

And finally I thought "I'll ask GRM."

So, what am I trying to find for a seat donor? If they'll physically fit, it's unlikely that anything they require for mounts or reinforcement will be a much bigger pain than adding mounts to that little B-pillar/package tray area...

Ransom
Ransom PowerDork
4/13/18 5:11 p.m.

More poking about needed; E46 convertible is looking promising...

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltimaDork
4/13/18 5:13 p.m.

RX8 has rear doors and no B pillar.  What do the shoulder belts mount to on one of them?  That weird Saturn coupe thing had the same deal on the drivers side.

You need to rebuild the floor to be quite a bit sturdier if you want the seat mounted belts to be useful.

Ransom
Ransom PowerDork
4/13/18 6:38 p.m.
Streetwiseguy said:

RX8 has rear doors and no B pillar.  What do the shoulder belts mount to on one of them?  That weird Saturn coupe thing had the same deal on the drivers side.

You need to rebuild the floor to be quite a bit sturdier if you want the seat mounted belts to be useful.

Good places to check, thanks!

And yes, serious reinforcements are in order, along the lines of tying into structural bits of the body, or maybe even using it as part of subframe connectors or something...

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
4/13/18 7:07 p.m.

Very available in junk yards, the 2000-2005 Buick Lesabre  has integrated belts. 

If the seats are leather they are likely power but cloth is likely manually operated. 

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
4/13/18 7:15 p.m.

Lots of Chrysler Sebring Convertibles too

Curtis
Curtis PowerDork
4/13/18 8:15 p.m.

Relevant to my interests....

 

MotorsportsGordon
MotorsportsGordon Reader
4/14/18 12:22 a.m.
John Welsh said:

Lots of Chrysler Sebring Convertibles too

Chrysler Sebring seats from the 90s have been popular with corvair guys. You can also get newer seats redone and stitched with retro patterns for a better look.

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