Four million gas pedals and rusty frames. Toyota announced that they will start replacing gas pedals on all affected cars plus dealers will cut some until parts are available. Some Tundras are being recalled to check for rusty frames. de ja vu ?
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Nov. 25, 2009 10:20 a.m. iceracer HalfDork
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Nov. 25, 2009 10:28 a.m. NYG95GA SuperDork
How do they mess up a gas pedal? Isn't that like the simplest moving part on the car? Ouch..
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Nov. 25, 2009 10:35 a.m. iceracer HalfDork
It has to do with the floor mat debacle.
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Nov. 25, 2009 11:24 a.m. MadScientistMatt Dork
NYG95GA wrote:
How do they mess up a gas pedal? Isn't that like the simplest moving part on the car?
Not with a drive by wire throttle...
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Nov. 25, 2009 11:27 a.m. Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
I have a rusty Tundra... do you have anymore info on this?
EDIT: Autoblog Story
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Nov. 25, 2009 5:55 p.m. zipty842 New Reader
They really should have never let Americans design and build toyotas
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Nov. 25, 2009 11:34 p.m. Trans_Maro HalfDork
iceracer wrote:
It has to do with the floor mat debacle.
Probably has more to do with a faulty operator.
Shawn
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Nov. 25, 2009 11:49 p.m. DirtyBird222 Dork
wouldn't a floor mat recall be easier?
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Nov. 26, 2009 10:16 a.m. DrBoost HalfDork
DirtyBird222 wrote:
wouldn't a floor mat recall be easier?
Wouldn't auto engineers having a freaking clue as to how a car actually works in the real world (I mean, off the 21" computer screen) been easier? Maybe we need an engineer recall?
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Nov. 26, 2009 10:17 a.m. DrBoost HalfDork
DirtyBird222 wrote:
wouldn't a floor mat recall be easier?
Wouldn't auto engineers having a freaking clue as to how a car actually works in the real world (I mean, off the 21" computer screen) been easier? Maybe we need an engineer recall?
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Nov. 26, 2009 10:17 a.m. DrBoost HalfDork
DirtyBird222 wrote:
wouldn't a floor mat recall be easier?
Wouldn't auto engineers having a freaking clue as to how a car actually works in the real world (I mean, off the 21" computer screen) been easier? Maybe we need an engineer recall?
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Nov. 26, 2009 10:21 a.m. iceracer HalfDork
Apparently it wasn't a Toyota floor mat,but a heavy rubber aftermarket mat. Maybe all cars should have an emergency kill switch.
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Nov. 26, 2009 10:28 a.m. wayslow New Reader
I've had a heavy winter floor mat jam the gas pedal wide open. Not fun but I stood on the brake to keep things under control until I figured out what the problem was.
I installed a hook to hold the floor mat in place. Never thought to blame the car maker or engineer.
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Nov. 26, 2009 10:42 a.m. MitchellC HalfDork
iceracer wrote:
Maybe all cars should have an emergency kill switch.
Now now, Toyota drivers aren't always the most mechanically inclined, but it doesn't mean we have to kill them.
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Nov. 26, 2009 11:42 a.m. DirtyBird222 Dork
seeing as floor mats are an addition to a car now instead of a standard, I can see the aftermarket problem. I agree with you Dr. Boost, the ergonomics of some of these new cars, and the position of the pedals, seat position, and dash in relation to knees is ridiculous. But that's what you get when you hire engineers who graduated at the top of their class but haven't a clue as to what happens in the real world.
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Nov. 26, 2009 7:44 p.m. Trans_Maro HalfDork
iceracer wrote:
Apparently it wasn't a Toyota floor mat,but a heavy rubber aftermarket mat. Maybe all cars should have an emergency kill switch.
Yeah, like a thing you could turn to shut the car off!
Shawn
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Nov. 26, 2009 10:43 p.m. 4eyes Reader
Trucks shouldn't have carpet in the first place! Then there would be no need for floor mats
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Nov. 27, 2009 8:48 a.m. poopshovel UltraDork
Having watched the news last night, it seems as though there's some speculation that the problem might not be with the floor mats, but with the drive by wire. Otherwise, like wayslow said, install a hook (like some BMWs) or some freaking velcro ferchrissake.
Funniest part of the whole news bit: The recalls won't start rolling in until march or april. Until then, Toyota suggests that people start "Practicing shifting into neutral." Really? They think this is a smart idea for the numbtarded masses who can't figure out how to grab the floormat and pull it off the accelerator...or turn the key off. And seriously, why the berkeley not say "We recommend people REMOVE THE berkeleying FLOORMAT until they can bring the car in for service."
jeebus.
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Nov. 27, 2009 9:22 a.m. Datsun1500 Dork
The gas pedal recall is not for trucks, it is for a few car models. The problem stems from the gas pedal being close to the floor. Aftermarket all weather floor mats are taller than the Toyota all weather floor mats and are causing issues. It is not really a Toyota issue, more of an aftermarket floor mat issue but all you hear is Toyota has a problem with sticking gas pedals and I am sure they don't like the bad press.
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Nov. 27, 2009 9:25 a.m. Wally UberDork
The news here said that the dealers would cut the bottom of you gas pedal off until they could replace it. then they said tune in tommorow to find out if you child's crib is a death trap. Nothing like causing a little panic before bed.
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Nov. 27, 2009 11:17 a.m. ignorant PowerDork
SO this really isn't a toyota problem and they're taking care of it...
Yeah what a crap company.
Geez and they want to buy back a bunch of trucks with rusty frames that are out of warranty...
Holy Crap.. They really suck....
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Nov. 27, 2009 6:19 p.m. xci_ed6 Reader
What was wrong with cables?
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Nov. 27, 2009 6:40 p.m. P71 SuperDork
Newsflash here speculator peoples.... The 4 people that died in Cali was because of the factory Toyota floormat, NOT an aftermarket one. Second, over 2-dozen deaths have been blamed on this, some without floormats. It does sound like the accelerator is a bad design and/or the drive-by-wire is going nuts (which is why I will never own one of those...). Toyota tried to sweep it under a rug by blaming it on aftermarket floor mats. The NHSTA was taking the bait until the lawsuits hit.
Go read before you speculate.
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Nov. 27, 2009 7:25 p.m. Datsun1500 Dork
P71 wrote:
Newsflash here speculator peoples.... The 4 people that died in Cali was because of the factory Toyota floormat,
Go read before you speculate.
Actually I do read. Everything I read on the Lexus crash says there was a floormat not designed for that model car that got stuck.
Another article says it was an aftermarket all weather floor mat that was 2 inches longet than the Toyota all weather mat.
I will post links if you need me to.
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Nov. 27, 2009 7:49 p.m. ignorant PowerDork
P71 wrote:
Newsflash here speculator peoples.... The 4 people that died in Cali was because of the factory Toyota floormat, NOT an aftermarket one. Second, over 2-dozen deaths have been blamed on this, some without floormats. It does sound like the accelerator is a bad design and/or the drive-by-wire is going nuts (which is why I will never own one of those...). Toyota tried to sweep it under a rug by blaming it on aftermarket floor mats. The NHSTA was taking the bait until the lawsuits hit.
Go read before you speculate.
And P71's killed how many police officers?
