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RossD
RossD MegaDork
9/23/19 5:43 p.m.
Patrick said:

I came in here and realized you guys are not talking about the kind of home recording we do.

It's only kinky once.

Antihero
Antihero SuperDork
9/23/19 7:22 p.m.

In reply to Nugi :

I don't 100 percent agree with the no-one-knows what you play in a studio thing,but I also don't disagree.

I go after the sound I want regardless of what the cost of the instrument or gear costs. I'll play thru whatever amp gets me the tone I want, be it tube, solid state, modeling, dead squirrel....whatever. I bet the $12 pedal copy you have is a behringer? I sold my boss fz2 be sure the behringer copy sounded better to me.

 

My point is not that you should buy expensive instruments, nor that you should stay away cheap ones. Rather give zero berkeleys about the name/price of the instrument and use whatever speaks to you. My main guitar for the new band is a $179 LPish copy that is technically a semi hollow without f holes......and I play a little metal. The guitar is badass and in no way what the average person thinks a metal guitar should be

the_machina
the_machina New Reader
9/24/19 11:40 a.m.
barefootskater said:

In reply to infinitenexus :

I'll look into Reaper for sure. Thanks! Also after this mixer an SM57 in next on the list. I have a 58 already and they are for sure more versatile than most folks would have you believe.

 

If you already have a 58, you probably won't get as much bang from getting a SM57 as you would from getting something much different from your existing 58. If you're going to have two (or three) mics for home recording, you might as well get a couple different flavors:

Dynamic Cardioid (like your SM58)

Dynamic Supercardioid (go buy a Beta58 next)

Large diaphram Condenser (like a Rode NT1-A)

With this diversity, you'll get options on how to mic something up, you can try a couple different mics and see which plays best with your performer's vocals, or decide which will work best for slapping in front of the cab on your guitar amp (and deciding WHERE you want it is a whole nother issue...). Just like there's a certain charm to having a miata for autocross, and a S600 for a daily driver, and a suburban tow pig, you want to have VERY different mics in your arsenal instead of very similar ones, at least at first. Eventually you get a matched set of four SM57's and a couple 52's for micing up a full drum kit, but that's WAY down the road.

Of course, if you're not just looking to do home recording but also some live sound reinforcement, all of the above is trash and you should go buy a bunch of 58's and 57's.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
9/24/19 11:56 a.m.

In reply to Nugi :

I have been recording multitrack since I was a kid. I hve fond memories of bouncing tracks on a dual deck stereo in my bedroom,  but I digress.

1. Just do it. Practice makes you good. This is the best tip here.

Definitely. I used to do a fair bit of home recording with my band 25+ years ago. I'm woefully out of practice now. The bass player in that band never really stopped and now has in own project studio with digital recording, good microphones and most importantly - nearly 3 decades of experience in recording music. He gets paid to record people now as his side gig.

So when I finally get my act together and get some songs written and practiced, I'll just go to his place. 

barefootskater
barefootskater Dork
9/24/19 12:42 p.m.

Practice is huge. I've been tinkering with this song for 3 years or so but when I sat down to try and lay guitar tracks it was terrible. More accurately, I was terrible. Couldn't stay on beat.

Best drummer I ever worked with would go into a studio and play his parts unaccompanied with just a click track in his ears. Two or three takes later and drums were done. I aspire to play at that skill level.

I have an action cam and an iphone and I debate setting up for video while I do this and posting the whole thing to YT. Jury is still out. But I will post up some audio tracks soon and link them here.

infinitenexus
infinitenexus Reader
9/25/19 2:22 p.m.

Hey do it.  We can all post something and start a thing.

barefootskater
barefootskater Dork
9/25/19 3:02 p.m.

In reply to infinitenexus :

Ok. I'll do it. Just be patient. New mixer arrives next week and I need to spend some time figuring out my dirtbike, and rebuild the carb on the mudstain. And soundproof the basement as much as possible because small kids sleeping.

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett MegaDork
9/25/19 4:37 p.m.
infinitenexus said:

Hey do it.  We can all post something and start a thing.

I’ll throw this out then. Honestly I’m not too involved in all the details of our guitarist’s recording setup, but if anyone wants details I’ll be glad to ask him. This is a Facebook vid, but we recorded everything through the DAW. The drums are all digital, I’m DI in on bass, and he has a mic on his cab for guitar. 

I definitely think there’s room for improvement, but it’s nice having a reasonably quiet practice volume. 

barefootskater
barefootskater Dork
9/27/19 3:38 p.m.

USPS was early!

Now I have more inputs than mics. Unfortunately it does me little good today as it’s my daughters birthday and tomorrow/Sunday is camping trip. Maybe Monday? I’ll shoot for Monday to get some acceptable drum sounds and a video even if it is just a couple bad takes. 

barefootskater
barefootskater Dork
9/28/19 1:10 a.m.

A bit of an introductory video:

https://youtu.be/hBpw9G7LyEc

i spent about an hour experimenting with mics and placement and eq. I think it’s passable. I’ll try to sit down and get a few takes of actually playing in the next few days. Don’t expect much in the way of production quality. 

Toymanswife
Toymanswife Reader
9/28/19 11:18 p.m.

Kid brother does it professionally in Memphis.  He would probably be willing to offer suggestions.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
9/30/19 11:47 p.m.

I discovered today with my setup what the original DOOM might have sounded like with an 808 and a Minimoog Model D. I don't think it's anything you lot need to hear, but boy is that good stress relief.

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett MegaDork
10/1/19 5:58 a.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

That sounds exactly like something we need to hear!

barefootskater
barefootskater Dork
10/1/19 11:14 p.m.

https://youtu.be/83FVK_uQxec

Don't judge me, I'm not a drummer.

barefootskater
barefootskater Dork
10/10/19 10:10 a.m.

Starting next weekend the room in my basement will be occupied and there will be yet another toddler in the house. I need to find a place for to do drumming and the storage place I used to use for band practice does not allow that anymore. I'm at a bit of a loss but this is just a hiccup. Anyone have a room or shed for rent in St. George UT?

barefootskater
barefootskater Dork
11/7/19 4:38 p.m.

New Alesis electronic drum kit arrived today. Very sleeping-toddler friendly. Such excitement.

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett MegaDork
11/7/19 6:35 p.m.

In reply to barefootskater :

Nice!

barefootskater
barefootskater Dork
11/7/19 9:45 p.m.

Threads are better with pictures

barefootskater
barefootskater SuperDork
11/26/19 11:24 p.m.

This electric drum kit is possibly the best musical investment I've ever made. And I'm not even a drummer. 
Shameless endorsement: this is an Alesis Command X. Found it on reverb new for nearly $300 below msrp. Worth twice what I paid. The built in sounds are great and there are a ton of them. setup was fun and simple. All the mounts are adjustable and it was super easy to get everything just where I wanted it. Plus I can let the kids play with it because it was literally made to be beaten with sticks. 

ive also been experimenting with mics and mixing. At first I couldn't get my sm58 to play well with my acoustic guitar. Turns out the trick wat to run it through the board and turn the gain up and turn the lows down. Works great about 6" from the sound hole. 

anyway. I've set some goals, come up with a few ideas, and gotten back to practicing more over the last few weeks. Have two songs on the cooker. If anyone is interested in hearing what I have so far just let me know and I can upload audio tracks on yt. 
 

workstations:


little folding table ftw. If you have the means, I highly suggest picking one up. It is so choice. 
 

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett MegaDork
11/27/19 5:49 a.m.

In reply to barefootskater :

Awesome! Yes, please post tracks. I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d love to hear them!

dawers
dawers New Spammer
11/27/19 1:35 p.m.

I play the guitar and write song but I do not actually make recording in my home. In the future I want to run startup project with music. But how to do it [on a canoe?] I need to know if my idea can be successful or not, because many startups are not profitable. 

barefootskater
barefootskater SuperDork
12/21/19 3:45 p.m.

As requested. Just acoustic guitar and drums. Vocals should finish this one up. It's not perfect, but I'm as satisfied as I'll ever be. As noted in the description, if anyone wants the audio files to play around with just let me know. I'm not looking to sell or copyright, this is just for fun. Still totally willing to make penpal music if anyone is interested.

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett MegaDork
12/21/19 7:03 p.m.

In reply to barefootskater :

Subbed. That turned out really good. The drums have a nice natural sound & the acoustic is clean & crisp. 

barefootskater
barefootskater SuperDork
12/21/19 8:17 p.m.

In reply to Pete Gossett :

Thanks. The drums are a preset called SKA. They seemed to compliment the guitar pretty well. The guitar is an epi jumbo. SM58 with the gain turned right up and the lows low and the mids removes. I'm happy with the sound. Hopefully my vocals don't ruin it. 

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