Good riddens.
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Nov. 10, 2009 8:52 p.m. pitbull113 New Reader
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Nov. 10, 2009 8:56 p.m. Spinout007 Reader
Jensenman wrote:
cwh wrote:
9mm, back of the head, cremate, spread ashes in garbage dump. Life sentence = we pay $$$$ for his upkeep for years. Not worth it.
This. But with a twist: put him in jail and have a sniper shoot him at some random time.
I've gotta agree with this one.
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Nov. 10, 2009 8:56 p.m. Hal HalfDork
Datsun1500 wrote: If you did not live in the area when it was happening you have no idea of how much chaos these 2 caused.
Amen!! Bad enough that we didn't do many things we normally did. And they were captured about 7 miles from my house.
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Nov. 11, 2009 8:40 a.m. joey48442 SuperDork
spitfirebill wrote:
Dr. Hess wrote:
Ya know, where's Black Jack Pershing when you really need him? Firing squads with bullets dipped in pig blood. Leave one alive and let him go so he can tell his buddies. That's how America used to stop these little issues.
I thought it was MacArthur that did that. Oh well.
I don't think it happened in either case.
Joey
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Nov. 11, 2009 11:26 a.m. kpm New Reader
Hal wrote:
Amen!! Bad enough that we didn't do many things we normally did. And they were captured about 7 miles from my house.
I think they should erect a plaque at that rest stop...if they ever re-open it.
I think Malvo should have been a witness at the execution.
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Nov. 11, 2009 12:06 p.m. BobOfTheFuture Reader
z31maniac wrote:
Glad to see. I'm a firm believer in the death penalty.
BobOfTheFuture wrote:
And Death by Firing Squad is considered honorable, for example, Goering asked for death by firing squad after being convicted at Nurinburg, as an honorable solider. He was turned down, as he was now a convicted criminal, having commited war crimes.
Then how does this ever happen? If it's considered honorable, but you have to have committed a crime to be sentenced to death anyway.
I'm confused.
Was a pre-Geneva thing. Captured but too important to live soliders, or military leaders, but only when the captors decided they were to die honorably.
For example, many captured at the Alamo died by firing squad. They died fighting what the belived in, and as a counter example, the Valkyre conspiritors, or really any other solider considered a traitor, were hung.
This "sniper" deserves neither. He should just die like a forgotten bit of road kill in the gutter.
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Nov. 11, 2009 5:44 p.m. mad_machine PowerDork
somebody mentioned stoning? that would hopefully make some people think twice.
Could always let them loose in the middle of deathvalley at an hour before dawn.....
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Nov. 11, 2009 6:02 p.m. oldsaw HalfDork
The "Beltway Sniper" is gone so we'll have to discuss appropriate retributions for the next time.
Oh, wait............
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Nov. 11, 2009 7:57 p.m. wbjones Reader
Duke wrote:
With all the required automatic appeals, waiting periods, etc. it's actually more expensive to execute someone than it is to lock them up for 20+ years.
he did his killing in 2002... took "only" 8 yrs to plant this berkeleyer .... probably about an even trade out with a life sentence .... here in NC that is considered to be 80 yrs.... with time off for "good" behavior .... he would have been OUT in 20 yrs... still don't think that's right
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Nov. 12, 2009 9:26 p.m. billy3esq Dork
wbjones wrote:
Duke wrote:
With all the required automatic appeals, waiting periods, etc. it's actually more expensive to execute someone than it is to lock them up for 20+ years.
he did his killing in 2002... took "only" 8 yrs to plant this berkeleyer .... probably about an even trade out with a life sentence ....
VA did this pretty fast, especially for a state that doesn't do that many executions, but I'd bet my next paycheck it was still a lot more expensive to execute him than to give him life w/o parole.
The rule of thumb I always hear is that executing someone costs 3x what it costs to lock them up for life. I think this is from a study done in Texas in the 90s. This also matches my rough back of envelope calculations.
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Nov. 13, 2009 7:32 a.m. minimac Dork
Who cares about the cost....it's the deterrent factor here. Life in prison w/all your homies, with nothing to do but work out, play games, read and watch cable isn't much of deterrent to a lot of people. Not to mention all the sex they might want. Frying in the electric chair, lethal injections, hanging, or being gassed all carry quite a bit more weight.
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Nov. 13, 2009 7:53 a.m. Autolex HalfDork
pitbull113 wrote:
Good riddens.
f86sabjf wrote:
good riddens to him
not to be an shiny happy person or anything, but the word is "riddance"
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Nov. 13, 2009 10:47 a.m. Hal HalfDork
billy3esq wrote: VA did this pretty fast, especially for a state that doesn't do that many executions
And that was why he was prosecuted in VA. The Montgomery Count MD DA (currently MD attorney General) was very upset that he didn't get the chance to prosecute. Even though more of the killings happened in MD and DC the decision was made to prosecute in VA rather than MD or DC (Federal Court) because VA had the death penalty and the others did not.
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Nov. 13, 2009 1:05 p.m. Gearheadotaku Reader
The death penalty may not stop people from commiting x crime, but it prevents repeat offenders.
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Nov. 13, 2009 4:05 p.m. billy3esq Dork
Gearheadotaku wrote:
The death penalty may not stop people from commiting x crime, but it prevents repeat offenders.
Ding, ding, ding. Most studies show that the death penalty has almost zero deterrent effect. However, it does wonders for recidivism rates.
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Nov. 13, 2009 4:16 p.m. Dr. Hess PowerDork
Yeah, very low deterrent effect. Only because it isn't applied properly. If we put Hess' Law in effect, then the death penalty would work. And cure recidivism, at least for politics.
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Nov. 13, 2009 4:47 p.m. billy3esq Dork
In reply to Dr. Hess:
Let me guess, Hess' Law doesn't include a lot of what my cronies and I would call due process.
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Nov. 13, 2009 7:34 p.m. Dr. Hess PowerDork
Naw, Billy, Hess' Law has lots of due process. Hess' Law is: Death Penalty for any politician that receives so much as a penny from anyone that cannot directly vote for them. Can someone in New York vote for a Texas Senator? No? No money. Can a corporation vote for an Arkansan Governor? No? No money. Can a Saudi prince vote for president? No? No money. Take the money, death penalty. After due process, of course. Gotta keep the esquires employed since they won't be going into politics anymore, right? The second part of Hess' Law is 10 years manditory prison sentence for any voter fraud. Vote twice? 10 years. No parole.
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Nov. 13, 2009 7:34 p.m. oldsaw HalfDork
billy3esq wrote:
In reply to Dr. Hess:
Let me guess, Hess' Law doesn't include a lot of what my cronies and I would call due process.
Sorry, but many would consider it "due excess".
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Nov. 13, 2009 8:18 p.m. Datsun1500 Dork
billy3esq wrote:
In reply to Dr. Hess:
Let me guess, Hess' Law doesn't include a lot of what my cronies and I would call due process.
OK, I'll bite... They caught him with the weapon and customized car. He admitted the crime. What "due process" took 8 years?
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Nov. 13, 2009 8:35 p.m. cwh SuperDork
Yes, yes, yes. The death penalty eliminates a repeat offender. No question. I completely agree with due process in all cases. Our courts do have a way of seeing the real situation (in most cases) and I don't want an innocent person sent to prison for any reason. BUT, this guy was found guilty due to good police work and a bunch of hard evidence. No question about guilt. As I said earlier, 9mm, adios MF.
