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April 13, 2011 10:29 p.m. stuart in mn SuperDork

mtn wrote:

gamby wrote:

I mean, it's REALLY impressive. IMHO stuff this super-technical becomes emotionally devoid because it's more of a technical exercise than an expression of feeling. Guitar geeks love to masturbate over this type of thing.

I'm with you. Am I impressed? Definitely. Could I ever do it? Nope. Do I like it? Nope. It is difficult for the sake of being difficult, and they lose the music for it.

Leo Kotke is as far into this "genre" as I'll listen to for pleasure, and even much of his stuff is too technical for me.

The thing I like about Leo Kottke is his humor - he's really funny, in a warped sort of way. Look on Youtube for his story about Whitey and the chicken, or his encounter with Bob Dylan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUD6x87NtaQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2KoIWEAdaM&feature=related

Years ago I used to work with a guy named Peter Lang, who collaborated with Kottke back in the 1970s; he doesn't perform a whole lot anymore but there are a bunch of videos on Youtube of him as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEjsWzynu3M
April 13, 2011 11:28 p.m. GlennS Dork

naudo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzXehM1xN1s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGfIAibDHPo&feature=related
April 13, 2011 11:37 p.m. fast_eddie_72 Dork

SupraWes wrote:

Stanley Jordan

http://youtu.be/QH4Hd69jzP4 Eleanor Rigby

http://youtu.be/GT0Sz6iRUpo Stairway To Heaven

I really like listening to this guy. I have a record (yes, vinyl record) of his. Great stuff.
April 13, 2011 11:40 p.m. NickF40 Dork

I paused my pron for that........seriously though, amazing, true talent
April 13, 2011 11:54 p.m. gamby SuperDork

griffin729 wrote:

you should see what he can do with a loop box.

A ton of interesting music is being made as a result of loopers. I just heard Bill Frisell on JazzSet (on Sirius NPR) last week and he makes a symphony of sounds with his looper. He did a version of Lucinda Williams' "Ventura" that was just STUNNING. I wasn't familiar with the song, but damn, was it great.

Here's that whole performance: http://www.npr.org/2011/03/17/120839246/bill-frisell-trio-on-jazzset

Anyway, I tend to hate these threads because even though I'm a guitar player, I tend to appreciate songwriting and texture over technicality. They always end up as a mish--mash of "I know this obscure guy whom guitarists gush over" "well, I know THIS obscure guy whom guitarists gush over ".

Reminds me of the joke: "How many guitar players does it take to screw in a lightbulb" "100--1 to screw in the bulb and 99 to say they could do it better"
April 14, 2011 1:21 a.m. mtn SuperDork

gamby wrote: Anyway, I tend to hate these threads because even though I'm a guitar player, I tend to appreciate songwriting and texture over technicality. They always end up as a mish--mash of "I know this obscure guy whom guitarists gush over" "well, I know THIS obscure guy whom guitarists gush over ".

And again I agree with you. It reminds me of Einsteins quote: "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move in the opposite direction."
April 14, 2011 12:11 p.m. procainestart Dork

curtis73 wrote:

RealMiniDriver wrote:

Andy Mckee

This. Right here. Music affects me in huge ways, and this one is so awesome.

Andy McKee is undoubtedly a talented individual. But he exists as a musician because of Michael Hedges, who was a genius:

Aerial Boundaries (Skip to 2:50)

Because It's There

Tomorrow Never Knows (Beatles cover)
April 14, 2011 4:29 p.m. triumph7 Reader

http://youtu.be/XZTGQDv3KbU

Discussion over!
April 14, 2011 7:25 p.m. gamby SuperDork

procainestart wrote:

Tomorrow Never Knows (Beatles cover)

Sorry, that just made me angry The texture and beauty of the original was an epiphany to me the first time I heard it. It absolutely blew my mind. This cover did not--but that's just me.

The DiMeola clip was pretty badass. Again, nothing I'd buy, but impressive nonetheless.

I'm more interested that he was doing shred before anyone knew what shred was" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atz9vzTAUh0

...but even then, it's more of a "hey--that's revolutionary and neat, but it doesn't inspire me" kind of thing.

I'm such a jaded, self-loathing guitar player
April 14, 2011 9:41 p.m. RealMiniDriver Dork

Thanks for sharing all the great videos.

townsend7 wrote: Here's a little 3 string for a change of pace.

Very cool!

How about some 2 finger?

I'm no musician, but I like the way Travis Larson Band puts an emphasis on the bass, instead of just using it for laying down a backing groove. My wife and I saw them here in Milwaukee at the World's largest music festival a few years ago.
April 14, 2011 10:04 p.m. Kramer HalfDork

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?xl=xl_blazer&v=zBE...

Tommy Emanuel is pretty good.
April 15, 2011 3:33 p.m. triumph7 Reader

gamby wrote:

procainestart wrote:

Tomorrow Never Knows (Beatles cover)

Sorry, that just made me angry The texture and beauty of the original was an epiphany to me the first time I heard it. It absolutely blew my mind. This cover did not--but that's just me.

The DiMeola clip was pretty badass. Again, nothing I'd buy, but impressive nonetheless.

I'm more interested that he was doing shred before anyone knew what shred was" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atz9vzTAUh0

...but even then, it's more of a "hey--that's revolutionary and neat, but it doesn't inspire me" kind of thing.

I'm such a jaded, self-loathing guitar player

I've actually known Di Meola, and his percussionist Gumbii Ortiz, for a few years. The last time I got to see him play I was in my customary front row center seat, about 3 feet from Al, After the show we were hanging out and I ask him "How do you do that (the fast fingerwork)?" to which he replied "I don't know". In my mind was "Thanks, I was looking for a little insight on how to get faster".

If that clip wasn't to your taste check out some of the older electric stuff. BTW, fun fact, Di Meola produced Stanly Jordan's first album.
April 15, 2011 5:08 p.m. SupraWes Dork

fast_eddie_72 wrote:

SupraWes wrote:

Stanley Jordan

http://youtu.be/QH4Hd69jzP4 Eleanor Rigby

http://youtu.be/GT0Sz6iRUpo Stairway To Heaven

I really like listening to this guy. I have a record (yes, vinyl record) of his. Great stuff.

Yeah, the album with Eleanor Rigby on it was a thrift store find. I read the back about how it was all one take no dubbing and then dropped the needle and said a few choice words!
April 15, 2011 6:06 p.m. curtis73 Dork

Andy McKee is undoubtedly a talented individual. But he exists as a musician because of Michael Hedges, who was a genius:

Aerial Boundaries (Skip to 2:50)

Because It's There

Tomorrow Never Knows (Beatles cover)

You are right, awesome guy. I don't have any albums of his but he keeps showing up on some Windham Hill stuff I have.
April 15, 2011 6:39 p.m. Zomby woof SuperDork

I wasn't going to get involved, but I didn't see it going down the fusion path. It's still my favourite kind of music.

If you like Al Dimeola, and haven't heard the the Kiss My axe album, you should. IMO, it is by far the best, and definitely one of the best sounding recordings I've ever heard. It's still my reference CD when I first put together a new pair of speakers, then again when I'm tuning.

Kiss my axe

There are so many great guitarists out there, and we all have our own favourites, that this thread could go on indefinitely.

This girl is still one of my favourites. I love her style, and she writes this stuff, too. The video is a little rough, but it's worth the listen.
April 16, 2011 6:08 a.m. Twin_Cam SuperDork

More Tommy Emmanuel (the first links didn't work), can't believe we made it to page two without mentioning him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lbvSBNLLoo

And for something completely different, starts halfway into the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIPArNbmSNI

He is a little douchey live, but he's still a good technical player.
April 16, 2011 6:45 a.m. Tim Baxter SuperDork

Tommy Emmanuel is the chosen one to carry on Chet Atkins legacy. When you're at Atkins side for decades and have learned it all, you're allowed to be a wee bit douchey. God knows lesser talents are a lot douchier.
April 16, 2011 9:27 a.m. Ian F SuperDork

Jay wrote: I don't know if the delay effect is "real" or if he's just doing that with his fingers. I'm tempted to believe the latter. Awesome stuff.

Yep. Very cool sounding. I do think he is using delay a la the edge. You can just barely detect it when he pauses between phrases.
April 16, 2011 10:46 a.m. curtis73 Dork

Zomby woof wrote:

This girl is still one of my favourites. I love her style, and she writes this stuff, too. The video is a little rough, but it's worth the listen.

Yeah, I like her too.... and she doesn't even need a guitar.

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