z31maniac wrote:Hate to say it, but I agree with Iggy on the some type of functional/competency test.
full disclosure, I do not have my CCL, but do know the requirements in my state
The training is an absolute joke. A few hours of classroom work on the laws surrounding CCL and then firing 50 rounds, split between 3 yards and 10 yards I believe. In my humble opinion, that is not nearly enough training.
Granted I'm not saying this for owning a rifle/shotgun/handgun in your home, but for a CCL yes.
waits to see how many will lambaste this idea, whilst continually praising the German model of driver training
I have no problem with this, but this is a state issue, not a federal one. In texas for the CHL license, its an 8 hour course plus test and shooting test, but i can also get a non-resident Utah permit that is reciprocated in Texas, but for that its only a 4 hour class and test, no shooting test required.
Re; Ignorant - there has never been a burden of proof of "need" or "usefulness" for any gun or gun part to be legal. my AR15 has a bayonet lug on it, but california has banned detatchable magazines, pistol grips, and bayonet lugs together, but separate they're OK... see a flaw there? here is the wording of how it is determined whether a gun is legal or not in california.
From: http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcassaul.html
It also prohibits new civilian manufacture of "large capacity ammunition feeding devices" declared certain weapons as assault weapons, and states a semi-automatic rifle is an assault weapon if it can accept a detachable magazine and has two or more of the following:
- A folding or telescoping stock
- A pistol grip
- A bayonet mount
- A flash suppressor, or threads to attach one
- A grenade launcher.
so if i forego the flash suppressor, collapsable stock, and bayonet mount, i can still have a grenade launcher, that makes sense, right?

