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  • 914Driver

    Feb. 11, 2009 6:07 a.m. 914Driver Dork

    I didn't know how else to title this thread....

    High School kid has a party at his parent's home, alcohol and pot involved; drunk 16 year old hops in a stolen car with four peole (he's driving) crashes and kills two 16 y/o girls.

    Parents supplied the alcohol, allegedly knew about the pot.

    If it were my kid killed, you bet I'd be standing at the jail gate when that gets out of jail in 2 years!

    http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=768748

  • Grtechguy

    Feb. 11, 2009 7:01 a.m. Grtechguy SuperDork

    I'm a younger father of 3 kids....if they do anything resembling D&D when they're older, I will drive them to the lockup myself.

  • confuZion3

    Feb. 11, 2009 10:30 a.m. confuZion3 Dork

    What amazed me is that somebody KILLED TWO PEOPLE and is in prison for a scant 2 to 7 years (and you better believe that he'll get out in closer to 2 years)! He should be there for fifty years! That's 25 per person killed. I barely think that's harsh enough.

  • 914Driver

    Feb. 11, 2009 10:57 a.m. 914Driver Dork

    That's why I said I would be standing at the gate when he got out. I'm old, I can do the time....

  • ManofFewWords

    Feb. 11, 2009 11:07 a.m. ManofFewWords Reader

    This is a tragedy for all involved. That being said; will anyone who has ever drank and then driven please refrain from comment.

  • rebelgtp

    Feb. 11, 2009 11:48 a.m. rebelgtp HalfDork

    I've never drank then driven and you can bet if it was my kids killed I'd be standing at the gate waiting for them to get out. Then I suppose I would have to just walk on in.

  • Jerry From LA

    Feb. 11, 2009 12:26 p.m. Jerry From LA Reader

    Two to seven is probably the going rate for a manslaughter charge in states where there isn't an extra alcohol or drug penalty and the defendant is a first-time offender with a guilty plea. My question is, why is no one prosecuting the parents for criminal negligence, contributing to the delinquency of a minor and accessory to manslaughter before the fact?

    I'm thinking there will be a civil case for wrongful death since the parents knew of illegal activity (and supplied the catalyst in part) so they are negligent.

  • confuZion3

    Feb. 11, 2009 12:30 p.m. confuZion3 Dork

    Jerry From LA wrote:

    Two to seven is probably the going rate for a manslaughter charge in states where there isn't an extra alcohol or drug penalty and the defendant is a first-time offender with a guilty plea. My question is, why is no one prosecuting the parents for criminal negligence, contributing to the delinquency of a minor and accessory to manslaughter before the fact?

    I'm thinking there will be a civil case for wrongful death since the parents knew of illegal activity (and supplied the catalyst in part) so they are negligent.

    The parents are being tried. It doesn't look good for them.

  • mad_machine

    Feb. 11, 2009 12:43 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    and once the criminal trial is done for the parents.. you know the lawsuits will start

  • Jensenman

    Feb. 11, 2009 12:51 p.m. Jensenman SuperDork

    I am no D&D angel so I will shut up about that. Suffice it to say I have learned my lesson and thankfully no one was hurt.

    This shows the idiocy people will stoop to so they can be their kid's 'buddy' and not a parent. It also shows just how badly it can backfire.

  • CrackMonkey

    Feb. 11, 2009 1:23 p.m. CrackMonkey Reader

    mad_machine wrote:

    and once the criminal trial is done for the parents.. you know the lawsuits will start

    Can't squeeze blood out of a turnip.

  • confuZion3

    Feb. 11, 2009 2:07 p.m. confuZion3 Dork

    ManofFewWords wrote:

    This is a tragedy for all involved. That being said; will anyone who has ever drank and then driven please refrain from comment.

    I don't drink and drive. Ever. I call casting the first stone!!

  • Jerry From LA

    Feb. 11, 2009 5:54 p.m. Jerry From LA Reader

    confuZion3 wrote:

    The parents are being tried. It doesn't look good for them.

    According to the article, they're being tried for endangering the welfare of a child. That's a wrist slap compared to accessory to manslaughter. Plus they have a documented history of criminal negligence.

  • Datsun1500

    Feb. 11, 2009 6:12 p.m. Datsun1500 HalfDork

    confuZion3 wrote:

    The parents are being tried. It doesn't look good for them.

    It looks better for them then the view they would have had they killed one of my kids... There are plenty of ways to make people disappear...

    You want to be a "cool" parent? Be prepared to accept the consequences when it backfires.

    I also need to know why does it seem like the ass that does this lives and the passengers die every time.

  • Feb. 11, 2009 6:30 p.m. turboswede New Reader

    As a father of two I hate to be the devil’s advocate here but isn’t there any assumption of risk on the part of the two teens that were killed in the accident? Unless the impaired driver forced them into the car at gunpoint I would think that they had some role in their own demise. It seems like kind of a personal responsibility issue.

  • AngryCorvair

    Feb. 11, 2009 6:32 p.m. AngryCorvair Dork

    CrackMonkey wrote:

    mad_machine wrote:

    and once the criminal trial is done for the parents.. you know the lawsuits will start

    Can't squeeze blood out of a turnip.

    but you can put a turnip in a blender and chop it to bits....

  • mad_machine

    Feb. 11, 2009 6:42 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    the law assumes that children under 18 are not accountable for their own stupidity

  • Feb. 11, 2009 6:44 p.m. turboswede New Reader

    mad_machine wrote:

    the law assumes that children under 18 are not accountable for their own stupidity

    But the driver of the Car was 16 too.

  • 914Driver

    Feb. 12, 2009 5:43 a.m. 914Driver Dork

    turboswede wrote:

    mad_machine wrote:

    the law assumes that children under 18 are not accountable for their own stupidity

    But the driver of the Car was 16 too.

    .. and fed beer by his parents.

  • 914Driver

    Feb. 14, 2009 8:17 a.m. 914Driver Dork

    Parents trial ended yesterday.

    http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=770051

 
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