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  • curtis73

    March 15, 2011 11:37 a.m. curtis73 Dork

    Can someone help me out? There is much of this genre of music I really like but I'm too old to know what is what

    I know we will all have different ideas about which song fits into which category, but can someone give me some characteristics of these categories?

    For example, I have found some artists that I enjoy:

    Akasha
    Solid Doctor
    Anoushka Shankar
    Kruder and Dorfmeister
    Thievery corporation
    Bill Laswell

    I thought I was listening to trance, but if I search for trance music I get what I thought was dance or house.

    If I do a search for "downbeat dub" on youtube I usually find something I like, but then I looked up "dub music" on wiki and found that they include groups like The Clash and The Police as Dub artists? Ska-ish maybe, but DUB? I'z confuzed.

  • Duke

    March 15, 2011 11:42 a.m. Duke SuperDork

    The entire genre of electronic music seems to thrive on applying dozens of different labels to things that sound 97% identical, and then pouring withering scorn onto idiots like me who can't tell drum'n'bass from House.

  • Jay

    March 15, 2011 11:43 a.m. Jay SuperDork

    I will now proceed to waste large amounts of your time:

    http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

    ^^ Rather snarky and not to be taken seriously. But still informative & fun.

  • 92CelicaHalfTrac

    March 15, 2011 11:50 a.m. 92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork

    Dubstep is a 140bpm wubfest.

    WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB!!!

    Otherwise, Jay beat me to it.

  • 92CelicaHalfTrac

    March 15, 2011 11:57 a.m. 92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork

    This thread MAY be relevant...

    http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/acid-trance-psy-goa-fa...

  • RossD

    March 15, 2011 12:14 p.m. RossD Dork

    Dub music is usually reggae or ska music with large sections 'dubbed' over the top of the music creating a large echo-y/reverberations effect. Linton Kwesi Johnson - 'Brain Smashing Dub' is a favorite of mine. Lee "Scratch" Perry is the godfather of Dub music and was on Beastie Boys' - 'Dr. Lee, PhD' off of "Hello Nasty" CD.

  • procker

    March 15, 2011 1:02 p.m. procker Reader

    Not an expert here, but I've been having some pretty good luck with finding new artists and music using pandora's free internet radio. Set it up with an artist of song that you like as the "station name" then, it will try to match your interests with that musical genre and stuff...its pretty easy and lets you create up to 50 stations i think using the free version.

  • David S. Wallens

    March 15, 2011 1:08 p.m. David S. Wallens Editorial Director

    curtis73 wrote:

    Can someone help me out? There is much of this genre of music I really like but I'm too old to know what is what

    Join the club. I got turned onto this guy last night: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Manic-Harmonic/200854406591535

    Good stuff. Plus he's actually a member of the extended GRM family.

  • curtis73

    March 15, 2011 5:54 p.m. curtis73 Dork

    procker wrote:

    Not an expert here, but I've been having some pretty good luck with finding new artists and music using pandora's free internet radio. Set it up with an artist of song that you like as the "station name" then, it will try to match your interests with that musical genre and stuff...its pretty easy and lets you create up to 50 stations i think using the free version.

    I have been a Pandora user for a couple years, but its SOOO frustrating for me. I've tried it under three different email addresses (one of which I actually paid for the account) and its glitchy. I actually just blogged about how non-intuitive it is. I started a station with Nickel Creek and the first song it played was Coldplay. So I went in and added some diversity with Allison Krauss, Union Station, Corey Chisel, and Sarah Jarosz. The next song it played? Maroon 5.

    I'm a big fan of the pandora idea, just not the actual pandora

  • NickF40

    March 15, 2011 6:32 p.m. NickF40 HalfDork

    92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:

    Dubstep is a 140bpm wubfest.

    WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB!!!

    Otherwise, Jay beat me to it.

    LOL there are some Dubstep that's good but a lot of the bad and annoying is the skin tight VW scene dubstep......

    I mean i'm a fan of the music mentioned but yeah it is funny how people get all offended when you can't tell a difference haha I always thought it was music to do drugs to haha I wave glow sticks

  • 92CelicaHalfTrac

    March 15, 2011 6:35 p.m. 92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork

    curtis73 wrote:

    procker wrote:

    Not an expert here, but I've been having some pretty good luck with finding new artists and music using pandora's free internet radio. Set it up with an artist of song that you like as the "station name" then, it will try to match your interests with that musical genre and stuff...its pretty easy and lets you create up to 50 stations i think using the free version.

    I have been a Pandora user for a couple years, but its SOOO frustrating for me. I've tried it under three different email addresses (one of which I actually paid for the account) and its glitchy. I actually just blogged about how non-intuitive it is. I started a station with Nickel Creek and the first song it played was Coldplay. So I went in and added some diversity with Allison Krauss, Union Station, Corey Chisel, and Sarah Jarosz. The next song it played? Maroon 5.

    I'm a big fan of the pandora idea, just not the actual pandora

    Gotta keep using it... if you don't like it, hit the "don't like" button. If you like it, hit the "like" button.

    Mine still goes off on weird tangents, but they don't last long anymore.

  • curtis73

    March 15, 2011 8:10 p.m. curtis73 Dork

    Jay wrote:

    I will now proceed to waste large amounts of your time:

    http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

    ^^ Rather snarky and not to be taken seriously. But still informative & fun.

    Boy, you ain't kidding. Somebody at that site has toooo much time on his hands.

  • NickF40

    March 15, 2011 8:30 p.m. NickF40 HalfDork

    I know haha

    I know they just made some of them up lol

  • gamby

    March 16, 2011 12:08 a.m. gamby SuperDork

    curtis73 wrote:

    on wiki and found that they include groups like The Clash and The Police as Dub artists? Ska-ish maybe, but DUB? I'z confuzed.

    I'm FAR from being an expert on this, but I'll interject.

    The Police were obviously influenced by ska and reggae, even though they never got lumped in with the whole Two-Tone ska movement that was happening in the early part of their career. Oldschool dub sounds had a slight influence on them--specifically here:

    Shadows in the Rain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjbQj_dB1OE&feature=fvst (if you want the definition of a dub bassline, this is it)

    Newschool dub is more electronic in nature--very bass heavy. If you want to see where it meets trip-hop, check out Massive Attack vs. Mad Professor "No Protection (a dub remix of Massive Attack's "Protection" album--a trip-hop masterpiece)

    Massive Attack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epgo8ixX6Wo

    Mad Professor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nSAh_egTlI

    The dub remix is much darker and ominous than the original, which is beautiful. I lent this CD to a friend 10 years ago and never got it back.

    Bill Laswell is an avant garde jazz guy who now dabbles in ambient music. Ambient is low-key electronica as well. All of them sort of cross-pollinate to a degree (since there is such a thing as ambient dub)

    I hope that helped a bit...

  • HiTempguy

    March 16, 2011 12:36 a.m. HiTempguy Dork

    I like electronic music in general, BUT, I also agree that the way the genre is described is confusing.

    All I do is scour car forums in their off-topic sections for electro/house threads. I very rarely like more than one song an artist has, so beatport.com is my friend. I also don't discriminate about what type of music it is (but I hate almost ALL trance and progressive music), and I have a big thing for disco inspired beatz, cause that's how I roll

    To get you started:

    It is in no particular order. Go through and put those names into youtube, see what you like (rinse and repeat). I personally think Cracks Flux is an awesome dubstep song (anything that goes bwabwabwabwabwabwabwa is dubstep, nobody can argue that), along with Rapid Fire. Also, for fairly original type of dubstep that (IMO) really signifies what dubstep is, download "Do You Wanna Have a Party" by Rusko.

    And finally, if you get the odd desire to dance to dubstep, here is the informative guide tongue in cheek

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOGi_OxTJ4M

  • NickF40

    March 16, 2011 1:54 a.m. NickF40 HalfDork

    hey thanks ^ ha

    yeah the funny thing is, there's electronic, electronica, electronic and dance, electronica and dance, electrodance, electrotrance etc. and their all different lol

  • 92CelicaHalfTrac

    March 16, 2011 8:47 a.m. 92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork

    Plugging nderwater's blog again...

    www.stopthedisco.tumblr.com

    If you search for "dubstep" tags on there, he's got some great stuff.

 
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