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  • Salanis

    July 23, 2009 1:00 a.m. Salanis SuperDork

    Datsun1500 wrote:

    So all of the people speeding are the ones that can afford it? Using your logic the only people breaking the law right now are the ones that can afford it and all of the "poor" are law abiding citizens because they can't afford to get caught.

    Remember how I said I was being hypothetical? Yeah... things that work in theory don't always work in reality. Theoretically, the fact that punitive actions exist deter people from breaking the law. $200 does not have the same value to everyone.

    Datsun1500 wrote:

    I work for my money, you work for yours. if I want to spend it on speeding tickets and higher insurance, so be it. If we are both speeding, we have both made the choice that the risk of the fine is worth it, regardless of income.

    And this is where I do think you're off track. To blow this out of proportion: "If I want to spend my money on fixing someone's broken leg, covering physical therapy, and paying legal settlements, I should be allowed to break a strangers leg with a baseball bat."

    If someone has greater income, they will probably be inclined to view the risk as less, and thus be less deterred.

    Stupidity knows no income levels though.

  • friedgreencorrado

    July 23, 2009 1:16 a.m. friedgreencorrado HalfDork

    Salanis wrote:

    Datsun1500 wrote:

    So all of the people speeding are the ones that can afford it? Using your logic the only people breaking the law right now are the ones that can afford it and all of the "poor" are law abiding citizens because they can't afford to get caught.

    Remember how I said I was being hypothetical? Yeah... things that work in theory don't always work in reality. Theoretically, the fact that punitive actions exist deter people from breaking the law. $200 does not have the same value to everyone.

    Datsun1500 wrote:

    I work for my money, you work for yours. if I want to spend it on speeding tickets and higher insurance, so be it. If we are both speeding, we have both made the choice that the risk of the fine is worth it, regardless of income.

    And this is where I do think you're off track. To blow this out of proportion: "If I want to spend my money on fixing someone's broken leg, covering physical therapy, and paying legal settlements, I should be allowed to break a strangers leg with a baseball bat."

    Agreed. I've often used the same argument against people who disagree with seat belt laws. Driving is often not a solitary activity, but a social one. My insurance costs go up because the insurance company I'm attached to pays for the emergency care of people injured while unbelted. "If you wish to drive with the belts off, that's OK...but if you get hurt, lie in the ditch until you get better..", I usually phrase it.

    Salanis wrote:

    If someone has greater income, they will probably be inclined to view the risk as less, and thus be less deterred.

    Stupidity knows no income levels though.

    You're right about that one.

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