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Sept. 18, 2011 11:42 a.m. BoxheadTim SuperDork

914Driver wrote:

You obviously offer something they don't have, it's not unethical or like prostitution. Years ago you were questioned if you stayed with one company a long time, now you're questioned if you don't move around. What's wrong with you that makes you stay put, motivation, training, why does no one want you?

That seems to be one of those "we make E36 M3 up as we go along" type things - in my industry (investment software stuff) it's fairly usual to move around a lot (especially if you're a contractor/consultant) and that's never been an issue until recently when most of the people my tame US-based recruiter talked to were complaining about me moving around too much.

I got a job with a company that wasn't overly bothered by this (or they could figure out on their own what the 'contract' bit after the job title meant) and oddly enough have no desire to move on.
Sept. 19, 2011 1:03 p.m. HappyAndy HalfDork

I'm giving my letter of resignation and two weeks notice tomorrow. I'm going to make a nice, conciliatory letter, letting the current boss know that I value the years spent working for him. I will indicate that I am willing to talk, but one foot is already out the door. (And it truly is).

I will miss my company truck the most.
Sept. 19, 2011 3:15 p.m. Brett_Murphy HalfDork

In reply to pete240z:

There is trust in the workplace?

The only thing I trust my employer to do is "Whatever is best for their bottom line."
Sept. 19, 2011 6:56 p.m. Basil Exposition Reader

HappyAndy wrote:

I'm giving my letter of resignation and two weeks notice tomorrow. I'm going to make a nice, conciliatory letter, letting the current boss know that I value the years spent working for him. I will indicate that I am willing to talk, but one foot is already out the door. (And it truly is).

I will miss my company truck the most.

No. No. No. Don't leave the door open for a counter. And if they match, you must still leave. It is rarely a good idea to accept a counter offer for the reasons mentioned by others. Don't even resign unless you have truly committed to put both feet out the door.

Now, if you want to have a discussion with your current employer about how you are not being paid a market rate, that might be appropriate. But don't do it by waving a job offer in your bosses face.
Sept. 20, 2011 9:47 a.m. Gearheadotaku Dork

Brett_Murphy wrote:

In reply to pete240z:

There is trust in the workplace?

The only thing I trust my employer to do is "Whatever is best for their bottom line."

agreed
Sept. 20, 2011 9:49 a.m. Gearheadotaku Dork

HappyAndy wrote:

I'm giving my letter of resignation and two weeks notice tomorrow. I'm going to make a nice, conciliatory letter, letting the current boss know that I value the years spent working for him. I will indicate that I am willing to talk, but one foot is already out the door. (And it truly is).

I will miss my company truck the most.

Enjoy the cookies...
Sept. 22, 2011 5:52 p.m. HappyAndy HalfDork

Well the deed is done. I'm going to pick up my black cloak and red lightsaber tomorrow. Henceforth I shall be known as Darth Wrench-Bender overlord of the dark side of electric industrial vehicle repair.
Sept. 22, 2011 6:16 p.m. LifeQuestions New Reader

The force is strong with this one
Sept. 22, 2011 7:43 p.m. dj06482 HalfDork

Congrats!
Sept. 23, 2011 11:38 a.m. Gearheadotaku Dork

Face it, the dark side has cooler uniforms...
Sept. 23, 2011 12:03 p.m. HappyAndy HalfDork

BTW the old boss made an attempt at a counter offer, it was far too vague and lacking any real details, he spent a lot of time trying to convince me that the other guys are the root of all evil in this business , the rate that I was offered was unrealistic and would put under unreasonable pressure to produce & that a worker of my character wouldn't fit in there, then wondered aloud if my character had changed. I stopped him there.
Sept. 24, 2011 12:01 a.m. friedgreencorrado SuperDork

HappyAndy wrote:

BTW the old boss made an attempt at a counter offer, it was far too vague and lacking any real details, he spent a lot of time trying to convince me that the other guys are the root of all evil in this business , the rate that I was offered was unrealistic and would put under unreasonable pressure to produce & that a worker of my character wouldn't fit in there, then wondered aloud if my character had changed. I stopped him there.

ROFL! Yeah..it's never their fault, it's always a flaw in your character.

I'm impressed that you were polite enough to the idiot to walk out without an escort from Security. You're a better man than I, sir!
Sept. 24, 2011 12:09 a.m. fasted58 Dork

Gearheadotaku wrote:

Face it, the dark side has cooler uniforms...

dig the cool tool belt
Sept. 26, 2011 8:59 p.m. 4eyes HalfDork

If the current company makes a counter offer, isn't that just admitting that they have been under-compensating you for years?
Sept. 26, 2011 9:14 p.m. pete240z SuperDork

Gearheadotaku wrote:

Brett_Murphy wrote:

In reply to pete240z:

There is trust in the workplace?

The only thing I trust my employer to do is "Whatever is best for their bottom line."

agreed

I see your point. What is the right word? Funny thing is I have the Enron CNBC TV Show on as I hang in my hotel room. LOL
Sept. 27, 2011 9:32 a.m. PHeller Dork

Interesting how the corporate world works.

Now that I'm in non-profit/government, any talk of salary increases are normally laughable, but everyone encourages you to look elsewhere.
Sept. 27, 2011 10:58 a.m. nickel_dime Dork

My thoughts have always been that after finding a better paying job, if my old job offer me more money to stay why was I not being paid that money before I found another job - SeeYa!!!!!
April 24, 2012 10:13 a.m. HappyAndy Dork

At a bit over 6 months in I'm finding the dark side suits me well. The red light saber is incredibly light and easy to handle. The black cloak took a bit of getting used to, but but its quite comfortable now.

The Dark Side seems to like me too, they've said that they're looking at me as a future supervisor/trainer.

Switching jobs has been nothing but good for me so far. Oh, and the old place is descending into chaos , rumor is the branch might close, the techs would keep thier jobs, but the other branch personnel wouldn't be so lucky.
April 24, 2012 1:41 p.m. Rusted_Busted_Spit SuperDork

Glad it worked out for you.
April 24, 2012 7:05 p.m. gamby PowerDork

Rusted_Busted_Spit wrote:

Glad it worked out for you.

+1

JThw8 wrote:

In these times rarely does any company do anything to earn your loyalty, they certainly aren't loyal to their employees. You gotta go with what is best for you.

Yep--in these times of micromanaging and overextending workers for little-to-no reward, they don't deserve any loyalty.

Good when a risk pays off.

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