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  • RossD

    June 8, 2010 10:07 a.m. RossD Dork

    I never understood a car company releasing a vehicle with a manual transmission and no tachometer. WTF? I guess they make cars for people that, when pulling away from a stop sign, like to be in second gear before completely crossing the cross walk.

  • MCarp22

    June 8, 2010 12:01 p.m. MCarp22 Reader

    Thought i'd update this with a photo in my driveway.

    Photobucket

    The R/T wheels still look cool. Way cooler than on Neons it would seem

  • 1988RedT2

    June 8, 2010 12:43 p.m. 1988RedT2 New Reader

    My boss had one back in the day. Drove it on at least one occasion. I think it was a 2.0-liter. With an automatic. I remember it was slow. Impressively slow. Makes good reliable transportation, though.

  • MCarp22

    June 8, 2010 1:23 p.m. MCarp22 Reader

    1988RedT2 wrote: I remember it was slow. Impressively slow.

    It's got enough torque below tachometer missing RPM that while normal driving it drives like a dodge neon or something similar in size/weight with a 2L.

    If you go to full throttle..... yeah it's really slow.

  • SilverFleet

    June 8, 2010 2:04 p.m. SilverFleet Reader

    Box flares. Now!

  • MCarp22

    June 8, 2010 2:43 p.m. MCarp22 Reader

    SilverFleet wrote:

    Box flares. Now!

    YES!

    looks at bank account

    no

  • 1988RedT2

    June 8, 2010 2:44 p.m. 1988RedT2 New Reader

    MCarp22 wrote:

    1988RedT2 wrote: I remember it was slow. Impressively slow.

    It's got enough torque below tachometer missing RPM that while normal driving it drives like a dodge neon or something similar in size/weight with a 2L.

    If you go to full throttle..... yeah it's really slow.

    I just recall (relatively gentle) hills on the interstate where you'd keep pushing the gas pedal down, down, down, and the car would go slower, slower, slower.

  • MCarp22

    June 8, 2010 3:07 p.m. MCarp22 Reader

    1988RedT2 wrote:

    I just recall (relatively gentle) hills on the interstate where you'd keep pushing the gas pedal down, down, down, and the car would go slower, slower, slower.

    There's a really big hill on interstate 71/75 on the Kentucky side as you're leaving Cincinnati. Terminal velocity in 5th gear / wide open throttle was 50mph, but I was still passing tractor trailers and stuff. More gentle hills are no problem. I guess the 5 speed is a bit better than the automatic!

  • MCarp22

    June 9, 2010 11:44 a.m. MCarp22 Reader

    So, now that i've disassembled most of the car in an attempt to locate the horn relay, anyone have any idea where it might be? It doesn't seem to be in the relay box under the hood, or under the dashboard, or under either side kick panel. I'm stumped here, help me out!

  • donalson

    June 9, 2010 8:30 p.m. donalson SuperDork

    MCarp22 wrote:

    1988RedT2 wrote:

    I just recall (relatively gentle) hills on the interstate where you'd keep pushing the gas pedal down, down, down, and the car would go slower, slower, slower.

    There's a really big hill on interstate 71/75 on the Kentucky side as you're leaving Cincinnati. Terminal velocity in 5th gear / wide open throttle was 50mph, but I was still passing tractor trailers and stuff. More gentle hills are no problem. I guess the 5 speed is a bit better than the automatic!

    my '85 tercel required a downshift to 4th to pass on the 60mph portions of the HW... and in 5th would just barley maintain those speeds as I recall... def an OD gear for MPG

  • MCarp22

    June 10, 2010 7:28 p.m. MCarp22 Reader

    Factory horn wiring is fired. Hooked a pair of $10 harbor freight horns up with a relay to the stock horn button. It wakes the dead now!

  • Robb

    Oct. 28, 2011 1:07 p.m. Robb

    Hey there, any interest in selling your camry ?

    check your email

  • joey48442

    Oct. 28, 2011 1:18 p.m. joey48442 SuperDork

    Robb wrote:

    HEY THERE ANY INTEREST IN SELLING YOUR CAMRY ?

    CHECK YOUR EMAIL

    WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING, NOOB?

    Joey

  • Tom Heath

    Oct. 28, 2011 1:27 p.m. Tom Heath Web Manager

    Joey, slow your roll. Calling someone a noob is not OK in this neighborhood. Being a "new reader" is bad enough.

    Robb- Please take caps lock off, and welcome to GrassrootsMotorsports.com.

  • Osterkraut

    Oct. 28, 2011 3:01 p.m. Osterkraut SuperDork

    Tom Heath wrote:

    Joey, slow your roll. Calling someone a noob is not OK in this neighborhood. Being a "new reader" is bad enough.

    Robb- Please take caps lock off, and welcome to GrassrootsMotorsports.com.

    Whoa Mr. Grumbletrousers, it's not like he called him a vajajay.

  • DuctTape&Bondo

    Oct. 28, 2011 3:43 p.m. DuctTape&Bondo Reader

    In reply to Osterkraut:

    I do believe that's "Bob Costas" around these parts.

  • Osterkraut

    Oct. 28, 2011 3:43 p.m. Osterkraut SuperDork

    DuctTape&Bondo wrote:

    In reply to Osterkraut:

    I do believe that's "Bob Costas" around these parts.

    Depends. Certain words trigger different censor words...

  • Robb

    Oct. 28, 2011 4:47 p.m. Robb New Reader

    sorry for the caps.. fixed

  • iceracer

    Oct. 28, 2011 5:17 p.m. iceracer SuperDork

    You would be happier putting that big sway bar on the rear. Probably easier to do also. Helps reduce understeer

  • Karl La Follette

    Oct. 28, 2011 6:59 p.m. Karl La Follette Dork

    Tenessee window tint laws 35% all the way ,,, you could use huper optik 30 ceramic bad ash

  • familytruckster

    Oct. 28, 2011 9:50 p.m. familytruckster Reader

    MCarp22 wrote:

    1988RedT2 wrote:

    I just recall (relatively gentle) hills on the interstate where you'd keep pushing the gas pedal down, down, down, and the car would go slower, slower, slower.

    There's a really big hill on interstate 71/75 on the Kentucky side as you're leaving Cincinnati. Terminal velocity in 5th gear / wide open throttle was 50mph, but I was still passing tractor trailers and stuff. More gentle hills are no problem. I guess the 5 speed is a bit better than the automatic!

    I love those hills. Out in WV on my way back from KY one year I had my big wagon, wife, kids,coffee table couple CRT computer monitors, a weeks worth of luggage, and a bunch more crap (and nothing intruded on my rear view) I was attempting to do the speed limit in the fast lane. Had a guy in a G20 in front of me going 15 under.... He finally got over and I went by. Few hills later he pulls up, downshifts and takes off. (going uphill) I let him get half a car, floored it and blew by him then went back to the speed limit. He never came near me again.

    Back on topic.... The 80s cars, as boxy as they are still look better than todays stuff. I was just looking at the concept car thread.... and was looking at the V steering wheels....And there the old toy has one....Ah the 80's.....

  • codrus

    Oct. 29, 2011 2:06 a.m. codrus New Reader

    RossD wrote:

    I never understood a car company releasing a vehicle with a manual transmission and no tachometer. WTF? I guess they make cars for people that, when pulling away from a stop sign, like to be in second gear before completely crossing the cross walk.

    Toyota took the view that (in the US at least), the only reason for anyone to buy a car with a manual transmission was because they couldn't afford an automatic, so the manual transmission cars tended to be strippers.

    IIRC, at one point you could only get a tach if you also purchased an automatic transmission.

  • jimbob_racing

    Oct. 29, 2011 4:36 p.m. jimbob_racing Dork

    I don't think that's entirely true. I had a factory tach in my Toyota Starlet and it was a manual.

  • moparman76_69

    Oct. 29, 2011 7:05 p.m. moparman76_69 Reader

    MCarp22 wrote:

    There's a really big hill on interstate 71/75 on the Kentucky side as you're leaving Cincinnati. Terminal velocity in 5th gear / wide open throttle was 50mph, but I was still passing tractor trailers and stuff. More gentle hills are no problem. I guess the 5 speed is a bit better than the automatic!

    I had an 85 5 speed back in the day and got a ticket for 79 in a 70 in Dickson Co. TN, on the same trip I maxed the speedo out on a down hill in KY. Top speed on level ground was about 90.

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