I know some folks here are builders and such, so I'm hoping you can answer a question for me, google failed me.
A handicap ramp is to be built to allow wheelchair users to avoid a few steps. Can something be hung on the wall at about shoulder height that would stick out about a foot from the wall?
I assume there can be no obstructions along that wall, or on the wall.
Does anyone know?
As described, nope.
Basically covered under protrusions from wall and clear space for sight impaired persons, not mobility disabled. You need a "cane detectable element" below 27" if the element sticks out more than 4" from the wall. Exceptions are made for pole mounted elements in open floor space (12" from pole, not 4").
What's sticking out?
There's a bunch more rules that apply to the ramp, rails, and adjacent space as well, but that's kind of a separate ball of wax. BOTH sets of considerations need be met, though.
bluej wrote: As described, nope. Basically covered under protrusions from wall and clear space for sight impaired persons, not mobility disabled. You need a "cane detectable element" below 27" if the element sticks out more than 4" from the wall. Exceptions are made for pole mounted elements in open floor space (12" from pole, not 4"). What's sticking out?
It's being proposed to mount a 70" monitor to a decorative pillar, not free-standing, attached to the wall just past the end of the ramp. That will make the TV protrude into the ramp and egress area by, maybe 2' or so? What I read (Michigan-specific document) said "no projections into ramp, ingress, or egress areas".
I appreciate your input, that's kinda what I'm looking for. I know the ramp is there to be compliant, I can't see that it'd be OK to have something hanging into this area.
Sounds like pretty much a big no-no from both the ramp clear space perspective and projection into space perspective, sorry 
This is very much the same sort of questions I work with everyday in exhibit design. If you want to shoot me a plan/elevation sketches, I might be able to give some suggestions for options.
You got it right, no protruding over the ramp. We are accessibility specialists.
I don't want to be a pest, but can anyone provide links? I will need some proof if I am to convince some, uh, stronger-willed people, that they are about to do something illegal. I'll be searching as well.
As a father of a young man who uses a chair, I appreciate you trying to make the ramp compliant. Some things done to comply with the ADA are terrible jokes, but may meet the intent of the law. I've built ramps for our personal use at our home that were not ADA compliant, but still worked for us, and I agree that trying to decipher all the requirements is difficult.
This stuff talks about the protruding objects. Other links are specific to the ADA ramp. Hope this helps.
https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/buildings-and-sites/about-the-ada-standards/guide-to-the-ada-standards/chapter-3-protruding-objects
pictars:
Perfect!! Thank you VERY much!
Zombie thread, canoe deleted
Heh, canoe revivalist or not, it should be noted that the 4” projection rule is only for objects that are less than 6’-8” or more than 27” above the traveling surface.
[edit] 20" changed to 27".
20"? You mean 27"?
Something change recently?
Since 27" is the magic number between protrusion and chair access under elements, I'm very curious about this 20" and the implications.
Sorry, typo on my part (posting from phone). It is 27".
In reply to soap94 :
Handicapped canoe.
And the info is wrong. It makes no difference what wheelchair you are using.
The ADA is not a law or a building code. It defines the Constitutional RIGHT for access for disabled persons.
You cant build a ramp (on commercial property) that would work for some wheelchairs but not others.
I have deleted the posting of the canoest.
This thread is over 1.5 yrs old and has Ben hit before with spam. How about we lock.
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