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Toyman01
Toyman01 MegaDork
1/3/18 8:12 a.m.

Deaths due to weather. From Here.

Give me the heat and the hurricanes. laugh

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
1/3/18 8:16 a.m.

In reply to Toyman01 :

It would be interesting to see that data after this year.  Last I checked, hurricane deaths are still being compiled from this season.

 

Toyman01
Toyman01 MegaDork
1/3/18 8:22 a.m.

Cold weather deaths from 1985 to 2012 are in the 5.4 million range. 20 times more deadly than hot weather. I don't think hurricanes can come close to that. Source.

 

NickD
NickD UltraDork
1/3/18 8:38 a.m.

Last week, my co-worker, who lives about an hour north of me, had -37 degrees Fahrenheit. That was after they got the 5 feet of snow on Christmas day, on top of the 100+ total inches of snowfall they've had for the year.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
1/3/18 8:38 a.m.

In reply to Toyman01 :

While it would be interesting to see the data and how they come up with the figure (as I suspect they are calling seasonal illnesses deaths due to cold weather), I'm not going to.  I personally are far, far more miserable in hot weather than cold weather.   

If you need that kind of justification to stay inside all summer long, that's fine.  smiley

But I also would like to see the number of deaths and the amount of damage for this season's hurricanes and compare that with any winter storm year.  Or decade.  I don't recall any winter storm causing billions of damage.  Or any winter season causing even a billion in damage.  And this season will be many multiple billions to the US recovering from the hurricane season, which we don't really know the final death count for.

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
1/3/18 8:48 a.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

The thing I wonder is, if the tally from the hurricanes is spread over x number of years, how it shakes out compared to the yearly total of snow damage.  Sure a billion is really scary, but spread over a number of years,  can be more manageable. 

Toyman01
Toyman01 MegaDork
1/3/18 9:23 a.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

Winter storm clean up costs US Billions annually.

Overall losses from winter-related disasters totaled $3.7 billion in 2014, according to a press release from the Insurance Information Institute. Comprehensive insurance coverage can save many owners from spending money on repairs, but $1.4 billion in losses in 2014 were uninsured.

 

So a annual cost of billions verses an occasional cost of billions. 

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
1/3/18 9:27 a.m.

I'm not going to see who can write their name in the snow the best......... but Winter storms can be very expensive to deal with as well as Hurricanadoes:

Storm of the Century linky

"This storm remains the country’s most costly winter storm to date. On March 11–14, 1993, a massive storm system bore down on nearly half of the U.S. population. Causing approximately $5.5 billion in damages ($9.2 billion in 2016 dollars)"

 

I was on Spring Break when this storm hit.  We drove my 73 Superbeetle directly into the storm, as I needed to get back to school.  I remember drafting a Greyhound bus on I-10, as the winds were so strong my little Bug could only do  50mph or so on it's own.   We spun on ice a few times, and finally made it to Atlanta.  With 22" of snow in Chattanooga, the highway was closed, and we holed up in downtown Hotlanta (not hot.... lots of snow) for a few days.   

So while I agree that hurricanes can cause catastrophic damage........Winter storms can suck badly as well.    Be careful out there folks!   

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
1/3/18 9:43 a.m.

In reply to Stampie :

I just want to know if you are still wearing flip flops!

Stampie
Stampie UltraDork
1/3/18 10:08 a.m.

In reply to SVreX :

Actually bare feet right now but when I did go outside this morning flip flops it was. 

STM317
STM317 Dork
1/3/18 11:09 a.m.

I love a good cold snap where it stays below freezing for a week or more, if only because it kills off all of the spiders, mosquitoes, etc. Last winter was super mild, and the bugs and pests sucked this summer.

Bobcougarzillameister
Bobcougarzillameister MegaDork
1/3/18 11:25 a.m.

In reply to STM317 :

below freezing (32*F) absolutely. Below zero F berkeley no. I'm tired of this crap. Last night I was out changing out the fireplace 100lb cylinder dragging it through a foot of drifted snow so the inlaws (from southern arizona) wouldn't freeze to death in our house at 65*. 

mtn
mtn MegaDork
1/3/18 11:28 a.m.

This is too early to kill the bugs. We need a good cold snap in late March or early April. Even then, that won't quite do it. Ever been in the wilderness in Canada? Pretty sure that it gets pretty cold up there, but I still have a mosquito bite from the boundary waters 2 years ago.

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
1/3/18 12:08 p.m.
Stampie said:

In reply to SVreX :

Actually bare feet right now but when I did go outside this morning flip flops it was. 

I I've got on socks, and for the first time since I moved to florida, I voluntarily put on pants. I feel gross. 

jharry3
jharry3 Reader
1/3/18 12:12 p.m.

Its amazing.  Donald Trump has only been in office for a year and already global warming is reversing.   

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
1/3/18 1:38 p.m.
Robbie said:
Fueled by Caffeine said:

I lived down south in hurricane country.. now I'm back up north...

 

One thing I've learned in my travels is that people will always complain about the traffic and the weather, no matter where you live...

If I hear one more damn state in that "we only have 2 seasons, (blank) and road construction" joke, I'm going to punch a unicorn directly in the face.

In minnesota we have two seasons... open water fishing season and hard water fishing season.. everything else is irrelavant. 

mtn
mtn MegaDork
1/3/18 1:46 p.m.
jharry3 said:

Its amazing.  Donald Trump has only been in office for a year and already global warming is reversing.   

I know this is in jest, but this pisses me off. Take a look at the Alaska temps right now. Climate does not equal weather. 

Toyman01
Toyman01 MegaDork
1/3/18 2:07 p.m.

It doesn't happen often, but it does happen on occasion. Snow on the ground in coastal South Carolina. Looks like about 3" so far and still falling. So much for doing anything productive for the rest of the week. 

 

Toyman01
Toyman01 MegaDork
1/3/18 2:19 p.m.

The Jeep does a pretty good job of navigating through it. 

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 MegaDork
1/3/18 2:24 p.m.

Im hoping for snow here. 

My miata has a torsen and i feel the need for snow donuts. 

jmabarone
jmabarone New Reader
1/3/18 3:15 p.m.
Dusterbd13 said:

Im hoping for snow here. 

My miata has a torsen and i feel the need for snow donuts. 

My Ranger has a trac-loc, so I'm game.  

Bobcougarzillameister
Bobcougarzillameister MegaDork
1/3/18 3:23 p.m.

The LSD in the truck was fun Sunday night with the inlaws. Something about a 20' long crewcab doing lazy donuts in the snow with the 4.8 roaring through the 3" magnaflow catback that makes me grin.

barefootskater
barefootskater Reader
1/3/18 3:31 p.m.

Almost, almost, wish it would snow here so my s10 (torsen) could do some of these snow donuts I keep hearing about. I did put a ranger in a ditch once while playing tokyo drift the first time I ever drove in the stuff. Turns out I wasn't as hot a driver as I thought.

I do need to send the graph above to SWMBO. She prefers freezing to sweating but maybe if I lace in some scientific evidence to my arguments I might gain some ground...

fasted58
fasted58 MegaDork
1/3/18 3:35 p.m.
Furious_E
Furious_E SuperDork
1/3/18 3:38 p.m.

Snow donuts/drifting are probably the #1 reason I'd prefer to stay up north, seriously one of my all time favorite activities. 

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