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  • carguy123

    March 12, 2011 3:42 p.m. carguy123 SuperDork

    Datsun1500 wrote:

    carguy123 wrote:

    I realize that my mentality of food service is quite foreign.

    And speaking of foreign, tipping is an American thing. You don't tip, nor do they expect it in most other parts of the world. In some places they'll even get mad if you tip

    They also pay the staff much better....

    I don't see how what you make at your job is my worry, my problem or should concern me in the least.

    I make more than some and less than others - so what. People that make more than me owe me something? I wish!

    Someone other than my mommy and daddy are obligated to help me out? Don't think so.

    They made their bed now let them lay in it. Now if they'd like to go out of their way and work harder to make my stay more enjoyable and give me more than just being a food deliverer, that could be a different story.

    In a restaurant I've paid for my food and if they don't have a line where I can go pick it up then I've also paid for it to get to my table. Add value to my equation.

  • Dr. Hess

    March 12, 2011 5:58 p.m. Dr. Hess SuperDork

    Otto Maddox wrote:

    Ranger50 wrote:

    Also don't forget WalMart does NOT buy anything. Everything you see on the shelf to them is FREE until it gets scanned at the register. Then a company will get paid for its product. That is why you will see your "favorite product" for awhile then POOF it's gone.

    How about a linky? I googled and can't find anything on this. Sounds interesting.

    The reason you can't find anything on that is because it's a LIE, or urban legend, or a mistaken belief or whatever. It doesn't work that way, and I'm in da biz.

  • Kendall_Jones

    March 12, 2011 6:12 p.m. Kendall_Jones Reader

    Dr. Hess wrote:

    Otto Maddox wrote:

    Ranger50 wrote:

    Also don't forget WalMart does NOT buy anything. Everything you see on the shelf to them is FREE until it gets scanned at the register. Then a company will get paid for its product. That is why you will see your "favorite product" for awhile then POOF it's gone.

    How about a linky? I googled and can't find anything on this. Sounds interesting.

    The reason you can't find anything on that is because it's a LIE, or urban legend, or a mistaken belief or whatever. It doesn't work that way, and I'm in da biz.

    Can anyone find a link that shows its an urban legend / not true? I was also under the impression that the suppliers were required to maintain stock at Walmart - I think I heard this at a Small Business seminar a few years back (part of thinking outside the box).

    Kendall

  • Ignorant

    March 12, 2011 7:08 p.m. Ignorant SuperDork

    Dr. Hess wrote:

    The reason you can't find anything on that is because it's a LIE, or urban legend, or a mistaken belief or whatever. It doesn't work that way, and I'm in da biz.

    I haven't really dug into this but it is a trend in supply chain to push more ownership of stock to the supply base. It's called a Vendor Managed Inventory. It is commonplace in automotive, but I'm not aware of it in retail. It dosen't mean it can't happen.

    I've seen VMI's where suppliers maintain a warehouse in the same town and provide mulitple JIT shipments per day. For example, a shipment of parts needed for 1st shift before it begins, etc... Another example would be a stockroom owned by an outside contractor inside of a plant; When an employee goes to that stockroom to get something, the contractor will get the material, and then generate an invoice when he hands the material over to the employee.

    A quick search for VMI and walmarts on the google turns up a few articles, nothing concrete. The article is old though and is completely non specific.

    http://www.scdigest.com/assets/NewsViews/06-05-25-1.cfm Just an example.

    Kudos to them if they can negotiate it into their contracts.

  • carguy123

    March 12, 2011 7:14 p.m. carguy123 SuperDork

    I know Target was doing it 3 years ago. One of my customers supplied them with Frito Lay products.

  • Datsun1500

    March 12, 2011 7:48 p.m. Datsun1500 Dork

    carguy123 wrote:

    I don't see how what you make at your job is my worry, my problem or should concern me in the least.

    Your concern is how you treat people that will be in charge of what you eat. That would worry me...

    I make more than some and less than others - so what. People that make more than me owe me something? I wish!

    It sure seems that way when anything comes up on the board about taxes, and how they should tax the wealthy more, and how every business owner owes someone a job, or benefits, or a raise...

    Someone other than my mommy and daddy are obligated to help me out? Don't think so.

    You think your mommy and daddy are obligated to help you out? Wow. How old are you?

    In a restaurant I've paid for my food and if they don't have a line where I can go pick it up then I've also paid for it to get to my table. Add value to my equation.

    Yes, I guess you have paid for it to get to the table. The value would be that it gets to the table on time and correct without additional items in it. Believe me, the next time you go to the same place after not tipping, your food has extras...

    Maybe I am just a good tipper, maybe I feel a few extra bucks won't break me, maybe you are more frugal with your $$, who knows?

  • carguy123

    March 12, 2011 9:29 p.m. carguy123 SuperDork

    You guys worry too much. I like my food spicy.

  • Leach

    March 12, 2011 10:56 p.m. Leach SuperDork

    Ignorant wrote:

    Dr. Hess wrote:

    The reason you can't find anything on that is because it's a LIE, or urban legend, or a mistaken belief or whatever. It doesn't work that way, and I'm in da biz.

    I haven't really dug into this but it is a trend in supply chain to push more ownership of stock to the supply base. It's called a Vendor Managed Inventory. It is commonplace in automotive, but I'm not aware of it in retail. It dosen't mean it can't happen.

    Aside from the fancy name it doesn't sound that much different from how we delivered soda 20 years ago. At larger customers we delivered 3-4 times a week, packed out the shelves and built any displays. About three weeks after the delivery, long after the product left the store, we would get our check.

  • gamby

    March 13, 2011 12:39 a.m. gamby SuperDork

    carguy123 wrote:

    Datsun1500 wrote:

    carguy123 wrote:

    I realize that my mentality of food service is quite foreign.

    And speaking of foreign, tipping is an American thing. You don't tip, nor do they expect it in most other parts of the world. In some places they'll even get mad if you tip

    They also pay the staff much better....

    I don't see how what you make at your job is my worry, my problem or should concern me in the least.

    I make more than some and less than others - so what. People that make more than me owe me something? I wish!

    Someone other than my mommy and daddy are obligated to help me out? Don't think so.

    They made their bed now let them lay in it. Now if they'd like to go out of their way and work harder to make my stay more enjoyable and give me more than just being a food deliverer, that could be a different story.

    In a restaurant I've paid for my food and if they don't have a line where I can go pick it up then I've also paid for it to get to my table. Add value to my equation.

    Are you a regular customer at any restaurants??? If so, I wonder who'd want to wait on you if you don't tip. It's a foreign concept outside of the States, but you live in the States and this is how sit-down restaurants work.

    We're regulars at a few places and get stellar service because I tip a minimum of 20%. I've been in fine dining restaurants where the tip got very close to the $100 mark (that's in the "as good as it gets" category of food and service, though).

    It's beyond crass/classless to not tip. I could never act that way.

  • mtn

    March 13, 2011 1:25 a.m. mtn SuperDork

    carguy123 wrote:

    I don't tip

    I know this post won't change your ways, but hey, I love arguing on the internet. Kinda like wrestling with an octopus

    You should. The wait staff usually earns significantly less than minimum wage because of tips. They also have to report tipping on their income taxes. If they don't, the IRS can actually tax them based on a percentage of what they DID report because it was on a paycheck: IRS tipping laws. So the server could (in theory) be paying to serve you.

    Now, what gets me with tipping is when a place has a gratuity for 8 people or more and they include the berkeleying tax on it. I'm not tipping on tax, damnit.

  • Ignorant

    March 13, 2011 6:35 a.m. Ignorant SuperDork

    Leach wrote:

    Aside from the fancy name it doesn't sound that much different from how we delivered soda 20 years ago. At larger customers we delivered 3-4 times a week, packed out the shelves and built any displays. About three weeks after the delivery, long after the product left the store, we would get our check.

    Yeah that sounds similar.

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