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March 26, 2009 8:40 p.m. ignorant SuperDork

DustoffDave wrote:

+1 for Salanis

Although I do agree with this:
MrJoshua said:

Humans are not inherently good. There is always someone somewhere willing to sell their grandmother to get ahead. If the price is right, we are all willing to ignore the plight of poor grandma to save a buck.

But I also believe that there are good people in the world who start good companies and make a lot of money without abusing their workers, I know he sent it all to charity, but look at "Newman's Own" -- extremely successful.

I would call newmans own a niche success, are they the next GE?
March 26, 2009 8:46 p.m. Osterizer HalfDork

Salanis wrote:

DustoffDave wrote:

ignorant said:
The robber barrons rose from the "purest" business environment I can think of... That turned out well... Child labor, company towns and such.

Hmm, you get me thinking, good sir... Eventually, those guys were thwarted by government intervention (anit-monopoly laws and such). Don't you think that, left to their own devices they would have eventually collapsed under their own weight or brutality and better companies would have taken thier place?

And much of the reason they survived for so long is because they were treated favorably by the government. Like in the example about striking workers, police intervened to break up the strike. Various levels of government took the side of the companies over the workers.

Including bombing them...
March 26, 2009 8:48 p.m. MrJoshua SuperDork

ignorant wrote:

DustoffDave wrote:

+1 for Salanis

Although I do agree with this:
MrJoshua said:

Humans are not inherently good. There is always someone somewhere willing to sell their grandmother to get ahead. If the price is right, we are all willing to ignore the plight of poor grandma to save a buck.

But I also believe that there are good people in the world who start good companies and make a lot of money without abusing their workers, I know he sent it all to charity, but look at "Newman's Own" -- extremely successful.

I would call newmans own a niche success, are they the next GE?

Or more related to the grandma quote-Wal-Mart.
March 26, 2009 9:22 p.m. carguy123 Dork

Boy I sure wish I could post a video here. I have a very cool video of Milton Freidman talking about Greed.
March 26, 2009 9:28 p.m. ignorant SuperDork

carguy123 wrote:

Boy I sure wish I could post a video here. I have a very cool video of Milton Freidman talking about Greed.

you mean this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A

counterpoint: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/19857
March 26, 2009 9:28 p.m. SupraWes Dork

carguy123 wrote:

Boy I sure wish I could post a video here. I have a very cool video of Milton Freidman talking about Greed.

This one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A
March 26, 2009 9:29 p.m. ignorant SuperDork

double counterpoint.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/04/opinion/greed-is-bad.html
March 26, 2009 9:29 p.m. ignorant SuperDork

SupraWes wrote:

carguy123 wrote:

Boy I sure wish I could post a video here. I have a very cool video of Milton Freidman talking about Greed.

This one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A

beat you by a minute.
March 27, 2009 9:32 a.m. Wally SuperDork

I couldn't love GRM the magazine or the website more, and believe me, I don't like to be the P.C police or anything or the guy who has a problem with everything thing, but I do have a problem with this...

I find it a bit offensive that you use terms like "socialist", "communist" etc etc... for your little descriptions or whatever for the President. I myself am not a socialist, nor am I a communist or marxist, but I feel sensitivity for Presidents as I was once president of the my chapter of the DJ Jazzy Jeff Fan Club.

These terms although I'm pretty sure are not even real words, are obviously meant to resemble the words used to describe people with leftist liberal agendas, and it appears that they are used on these boards in a joking sense which, as I view it, makes light of people who are draging this country to a stalinist dictatorship, or trying to make sure eveyone has a job depending on who has a prettier pie chart on a given day.

It just dosen't seem right to me, thats all. I know that it's not my message board, and that noone forces me to post here, but all the same, some things are wrong when they really don't need to be.
March 27, 2009 12:26 p.m. carguy123 Dork

SupraWes wrote:

carguy123 wrote:

Boy I sure wish I could post a video here. I have a very cool video of Milton Freidman talking about Greed.

This one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A

Dat's da one!
March 27, 2009 12:52 p.m. DustoffDave New Reader

ignorant said:
I would call newmans own a niche success, are they the next GE?

Well, GE didn't start out as a multi-national conglomerate. Even the biggest companies started out as a simple idea...
March 27, 2009 12:52 p.m. HiTempguy Reader

Wally wrote:

I couldn't love GRM the magazine or the website more, and believe me...

Didn't want to quote the whole thing.

But I see what you did there. ;)