ignorant wrote:gamby wrote:Shredders get very boring very fast for me, though.
qft...
Seriously... How do you say his name? voldemort?
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Dec. 16, 2009 6:48 a.m. z31maniac Dork
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Dec. 16, 2009 6:50 a.m. z31maniac Dork
Twin_Cam wrote:
z31maniac wrote:
Hmmm, just picked up "Ruination" by Job for a Cowboy and "Deflorate" by The Black Dahlia Murder.
Currently have "Wrath" by Lamb of God playing through my headphones here at work.
So you like the easy-listening section at the CD store, eh?
Is Job for a Cowboy that good? I've heard good things. Lamb of God gets really repetitive, but live they definitely will rip your face off if you're not careful.
That said, I was disinterested (sorry) as soon as you said Paramore.
Hehehehe, yes!
JFAC = meh, drummer is good, but it's a bit too chaotic. When one of their songs actually does get some kind of groove, albeit a fast one, they are kicking. But alot of it is just craziness. Unfurling a Darkened Gospel is my favorite song on the record.
I love Lamb of God, just saw them live with GWAR a few months back. They were AMAZING live.
And I'm a HUGE TBDM fan, can't wait til they come through Tulsa on support for the new album.
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Dec. 16, 2009 7:01 a.m. Tim Baxter Online Editor
Ian F wrote:
suprf1y wrote: Ian, you're listening to the wrong blues.
Oh, I'm quite familiar with Buddy Guy... and don't mind him in limited doses... but after awhile it all starts to sound the same to me... sorry.
Meh. Buddy Guy may be good, but he's still just another example of Average White Guy Blues. There's a lot more to it than that. Start with Muddy Waters and Howlin Wolf for a definitive slice of Chicago blues. From there, either go to the (unamplified) Delta, or get off guitar-based blues altogether and check out what cats did playing harmonica, etc. Or, (my personal favorite) dive into some jump blues... blues that swings. Grab some Big Joe Turner for a good primer there.
And don't bother listening to anything recorded after 1960. It will just sound like what you're already bored with.
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Dec. 16, 2009 8:13 a.m. suprf1y Reader
gamby wrote:
Not even close.Meh. Shredder tone, shredder-ish moves plaing shredder blues. .
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Dec. 16, 2009 8:19 a.m. suprf1y Reader
Tim Baxter wrote:
Ian F wrote:
suprf1y wrote: Ian, you're listening to the wrong blues.
Oh, I'm quite familiar with Buddy Guy... and don't mind him in limited doses... but after awhile it all starts to sound the same to me... sorry.
Meh. Buddy Guy may be good, but he's still just another example of Average White Guy Blues. There's a lot more to it than that. Start with Muddy Waters and Howlin Wolf for a definitive slice of Chicago blues. From there, either go to the (unamplified) Delta, or get off guitar-based blues altogether and check out what cats did playing harmonica, etc. Or, (my personal favorite) dive into some jump blues... blues that swings. Grab some Big Joe Turner for a good primer there.
And don't bother listening to anything recorded after 1960. It will just sound like what you're already bored with.
You have to watch that Buddy Guy vid to see why posted it. It wasn't for Buddy Guy. I agree. So much really bad, watered down blues out there. I like some of the later Muddy waters too. Hard again was his 'comeback' album, and it really was pretty good.
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Dec. 16, 2009 8:23 a.m. Luke SuperDork
PHeller wrote:
On a similar topic, anyone know of any good indie hip-hop or rap? I'd like to hear some good happy rap that isn't so mainstream and filled with all the homeboys rapping about the hood. Any pointers?
Anything old school. A Tribe Called Quest, The Pharcyde, even the Beastie Boys.
For something a little more recent, try Ugly Duckling.
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Dec. 16, 2009 8:50 a.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork
Luke wrote:
PHeller wrote:
On a similar topic, anyone know of any good indie hip-hop or rap? I'd like to hear some good happy rap that isn't so mainstream and filled with all the homeboys rapping about the hood. Any pointers?
Anything old school. A Tribe Called Quest, The Pharcyde, even the Beastie Boys.
For something a little more recent, try Ugly Duckling.
Also The Groove Project, Jurassic 5, Blackalicious
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Dec. 16, 2009 8:51 a.m. poopshovel UltraDork
ignorant wrote:
gamby wrote:
Shredders get very boring very fast for me, though.
qft...
Seriously... How do you say his name? voldemort?
My brother saw them ("Rising Force") in California way back in the day. Someone threw a potato and hit the singer in the head with it (Seriously, who the berkeley goes to an Yngwie Malmsteen show to hear singing about slaying dragons and riding rainbows or whatever?)
Anyway, the singer tried to go all axle rose and be like "Who the berkeley threw that!?" My brother said the rest of the band was laughing so hard they couldn't hold the song together; oh, and Yngwie had a reputation for being too drunk to play.
PS: I always thought "Really? Someone brought a potato to a show with the specific intent of hitting the singer in the head with it? That guy is my hero.
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Dec. 16, 2009 9:00 a.m. poopshovel UltraDork
93celicaGT2 wrote:
Luke wrote:
PHeller wrote:
On a similar topic, anyone know of any good indie hip-hop or rap? I'd like to hear some good happy rap that isn't so mainstream and filled with all the homeboys rapping about the hood. Any pointers?
Anything old school. A Tribe Called Quest, The Pharcyde, even the Beastie Boys.
For something a little more recent, try Ugly Duckling.
Also The Groove Project, Jurassic 5, Blackalicious
All three of which get lumped into that "Rap for white people" stigma. All three of which I absolutely can't berkeleying stand. The rap equivalent of Sublime IMO.
I'd recommend all De La Soul up to and including Stakes is High. Also, Hieroglyphics/Del the Funky Homosapien; not "happy" or whatever, but a little more intelligent than "shake your ass, buy clothes, shoot people." The 3rd eye vision record is absolute berkeleying genius. The Kool Keith and Dr. Octogon records are phenomenal, but maybe an acquired taste. IMO, Gran Puba is one of the most underrated rappers of all time. Listen to the "2000" record and tell me I'm wrong. The GZA/Genius's Liquid Swords record is also one of my favorites of all time, as is Old Dirty Bastard's 'Return to the 36 Chambers.'
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Dec. 16, 2009 9:27 a.m. poopshovel UltraDork
Another often overlooked bit of genius:
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Dec. 16, 2009 11:30 a.m. AngryCorvair SuperDork
Deltron 3030?
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Dec. 16, 2009 5:11 p.m. ignorant PowerDork
poopshovel wrote:
ignorant wrote:
gamby wrote:
Shredders get very boring very fast for me, though.
qft...
Seriously... How do you say his name? voldemort?
My brother saw them ("Rising Force") in California way back in the day. Someone threw a potato and hit the singer in the head with it (Seriously, who the berkeley goes to an Yngwie Malmsteen show to hear singing about slaying dragons and riding rainbows or whatever?)
Anyway, the singer tried to go all axle rose and be like "Who the berkeley threw that!?" My brother said the rest of the band was laughing so hard they couldn't hold the song together; oh, and Yngwie had a reputation for being too drunk to play.
PS: I always thought "Really? Someone brought a potato to a show with the specific intent of hitting the singer in the head with it? That guy is my hero.
I just vomited with laughter. Thank you.
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Dec. 16, 2009 5:38 p.m. PHeller HalfDork
poopshovel wrote: I'd recommend all De La Soul up to and including Stakes is High. Also, Hieroglyphics/Del the Funky Homosapien; not "happy" or whatever, but a little more intelligent than "shake your ass, buy clothes, shoot people." The 3rd eye vision record is absolute berkeleying genius. The Kool Keith and Dr. Octogon records are phenomenal, but maybe an acquired taste. IMO, Gran Puba is one of the most underrated rappers of all time. Listen to the "2000" record and tell me I'm wrong. The GZA/Genius's Liquid Swords record is also one of my favorites of all time, as is Old Dirty Bastard's 'Return to the 36 Chambers.'
Anything new? or newer?
I like new stuff. New books. New music. New bicycles. New gadgets. I like staying with the times.
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Dec. 16, 2009 6:02 p.m. FindlaySpeedMan Reader
All I got to offer you is Scroobius Pip.
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Dec. 16, 2009 6:03 p.m. poopshovel UltraDork
PHeller wrote:
poopshovel wrote: I'd recommend all De La Soul up to and including Stakes is High. Also, Hieroglyphics/Del the Funky Homosapien; not "happy" or whatever, but a little more intelligent than "shake your ass, buy clothes, shoot people." The 3rd eye vision record is absolute berkeleying genius. The Kool Keith and Dr. Octogon records are phenomenal, but maybe an acquired taste. IMO, Gran Puba is one of the most underrated rappers of all time. Listen to the "2000" record and tell me I'm wrong. The GZA/Genius's Liquid Swords record is also one of my favorites of all time, as is Old Dirty Bastard's 'Return to the 36 Chambers.'
Anything new? or newer?
I like new stuff. New books. New music. New bicycles. New gadgets. I like staying with the times.
Souls of Mischief (Most of the d00ds from Hiero) just released a new record on the first, co-produced by Prince Paul, so you know it can't suck. I haven't really heard any impressive hip hop lately. The 90's were the golden age of the medium IMO.
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Dec. 16, 2009 9:00 p.m. dxman92 Reader
poopshovel wrote:
Another often overlooked bit of genius:
Classic album. Their first album was real good too. Last I heard, they are working on some new material. I am going to throw the Roots into the good quality hip hop ring. Their first couple of albums are classics..
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Dec. 16, 2009 11:31 p.m. xci_ed6 Reader
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Dec. 16, 2009 11:32 p.m. grinch77 Reader
z31maniac wrote:
Hmmm, just picked up "Ruination" by Job for a Cowboy and "Deflorate" by The Black Dahlia Murder.
Currently have "Wrath" by Lamb of God playing through my headphones here at work.
You should check out Three Inches of Blood there pretty darn mellow.
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Dec. 16, 2009 11:34 p.m. grinch77 Reader
poopshovel is steering you in the right direction on the quality hiphop.
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Dec. 16, 2009 11:56 p.m. Volksroddin Dork
Per Schroeder wrote:
I have a hard time with new stuff.
Per (currently rocking to Violent Femmes)
36-24-36, country death song Yeaa!!
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Dec. 17, 2009 1:04 a.m. jhaas New Reader
Lord T and Eloise the inventors of 'ARISTOCRUNK' a bunch of white guys rappin about being rich dirty south style...the best live show i've ever seen! dead serious
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Dec. 17, 2009 1:52 a.m. mtn SuperDork
Way far from new, but for blues look to John Hurt.
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Dec. 17, 2009 2:44 p.m. poopshovel UltraDork
jhaas wrote:
Lord T and Eloise the inventors of 'ARISTOCRUNK' a bunch of white guys rappin about being rich dirty south style...the best live show i've ever seen! dead serious
Holy berkeley that's hilarious.
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Dec. 17, 2009 3:08 p.m. z31maniac Dork
grinch77 wrote:
z31maniac wrote:
Hmmm, just picked up "Ruination" by Job for a Cowboy and "Deflorate" by The Black Dahlia Murder.
Currently have "Wrath" by Lamb of God playing through my headphones here at work.
You should check out Three Inches of Blood there pretty darn mellow.
I will YouTube them when I get home from work tonight.
Thanks for the tip!
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Dec. 17, 2009 8:17 p.m. gamby UberDork
Not brand spankin' new, but a favorite of 2009"
The Raconteurs and guests--Old Enough http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4QbEcVVBHM Breathtaking musically and talent-wise (and I'm not a bluegrass fan)
Ancient in hip-hop terms (2007) UGK--The Game Belongs To Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hELADDyI1AE I dig the blaxploitation vibe some of their stuff has
XX remix of Florence and the Machine's cover of "You've Got The Love" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui5TGMWNEPo Chill and cool
Stax Soul reborn perfectly-- Black Joe Lewis and the Honeybears--Sugarfoot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UOJUbiWC5M
Noisy punk-ish stuff-- The Mae Shi--Run to Your Grave http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxw2BJt1NkA
