Pretty nice ride!
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Jan. 20, 2009 8:37 p.m. pinchvalve UltraDork
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Jan. 20, 2009 8:39 p.m. Tim Baxter Online Editor
If by pretty nice you mean ungainly, misshapen and hideous.
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Jan. 20, 2009 8:41 p.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director
the bottom side view is different. The one he was using was the top one, it's got flared fenders and appears to have a wider track. Makes you wonder what's under there.
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Jan. 20, 2009 8:45 p.m. amaff HalfDork
http://jalopnik.com/5131380/obamas-new-cadillac-limo-officially-unveiled
While the new Cadillac One may look like a stretched Cadillac DTS, it’s in fact based on the gigantic GMC Topkick truck platform. Security tech likely includes five-inch thick bulletproof glass, ultra high strength ceramic armor and cellphone jammers, but the Secret Service is putting the kibosh on official details for security reasons. One tech item they are talking about are the LED spotlights that’ll illuminate the fender-mounted flags at night.
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Jan. 20, 2009 8:47 p.m. Luke Dork
Cool. A Caddy seems only appropriate for a hip, young, African-American President. Some bling wheels would go down well. Or perhaps not.
What did Bush used to roll in?
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Jan. 20, 2009 8:55 p.m. P71 HalfDork
Tim Baxter wrote:
If by pretty nice you mean ungainly, misshapen and hideous.
The CNN guy this morning said it had 4" of armor. Considering the amount of protection that beast has to have I'd imagine it's hard not to look bizarre.
What I really want to know it's what's under the hood. Duramax? LS3? LS9? 572 BBC?
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Jan. 20, 2009 9:59 p.m. Nitroracer Dork
Its some sort of medium duty truck chassis with a diesel according to Jalopnik and LLN. Somewhere in excess of 14,000lbs.
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Jan. 20, 2009 10:30 p.m. mtn Dork
Luke wrote:
What did Bush used to roll in?
Very similar Caddy.
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Jan. 20, 2009 11:02 p.m. MitchellC Reader
Maybe four or five years ago, I was in the opposite flow of traffic as the Bush motorcade on the interstate. They were exceeding the posted limit by quite a clip.
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Jan. 20, 2009 11:57 p.m. David S. Wallens Editorial Director
On a related note, I just recently received a press release from Goodyear regarding the tires used on the limo. I was surprised that they'd even let that info out.
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Jan. 21, 2009 5:22 a.m. nutherjrfan New Reader
waited on a few ss guys tonite, never even thought to ask them about such things. i'd love one of those stinkin' lincolns in the frost movie - will never watch the movie, however.
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Jan. 21, 2009 5:35 a.m. bludroptop Dork
MitchellC wrote:
Maybe four or five years ago, I was in the opposite flow of traffic as the Bush motorcade on the interstate. They were exceeding the posted limit by quite a clip.
Secret Service motorcades ALWAYS speed, based upon my observation. Who's going to pull them over?
Watching Obama exit the 'car' on TV, I noticed immediately that the window frames on the doors of the Barackmobile appeared to be about 9" thick!
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Jan. 21, 2009 5:46 a.m. nutherjrfan New Reader
ahh, they don't have to speed in d.c. least not the ss, non-presidential, motorcades on conn. ave. whole goldarn blocks shut down for somebody or other. coulda been the prez. If so, he wasn't riding in the caddy. Today at Thomas Circle, I preserved my dignity, humility, and soul, by not photographing a stretch Lexus IS.
p.s. Does the guvner still speed in New Joisey?
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Jan. 21, 2009 8:35 a.m. GameboyRMH SuperDork
Someone was arguing with me yesterday that this is a hybrid. I don't know but I argued that putting a hybrid drivetrain in this would be the dumbest idea in the history of armored vehicles - it would be a breakdownbaby and the range and performance under electric power in such a tank would be a joke. I argued that the best engine for this would be a carbed diesel - it would be invulnerable to EMP attacks or anything like that, no worry about wires being severed or connectors being knocked loose in a bomb attack, and with no ignition or EFI systems (especially with multiple carbs) it would be dead reliable (although a nightmare to tune and a gas guzzler even by armored vehicle standards).
The only advantage of a hybrid is that it doesn't need air to run, but compressed air tanks could take care of that (at least temporarily) on an ICE.
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Jan. 21, 2009 8:38 a.m. Tim Baxter Online Editor
I hear he has a small nuclear reactor under the hood of that behemoth. There was some talk of clean coal, but nobody could come up with a good plan to keep the fire stoked--midget firemen with high-level security clearances are in short supply. So to speak.
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Jan. 21, 2009 8:44 a.m. Strizzo Dork
why don't you show us one of those carbed diesels, gameboy?
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Jan. 21, 2009 8:46 a.m. oldopelguy HalfDork
GameboyRMH wrote: I argued that the best engine for this would be a carbed diesel - it would be invulnerable to EMP attacks or anything like that, no worry about wires being severed or connectors being knocked loose in a bomb attack, and with no ignition or EFI systems (especially with multiple carbs) it would be dead reliable (although a nightmare to tune and a gas guzzler even by armored vehicle standards).
Surely you meant to type "mechanical fuel pump" instead of "carb" because you knew that diesels don't have carbs, right? And yes, a mechanical fuel pump diesel would have those advantages.
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Jan. 21, 2009 8:47 a.m. GameboyRMH SuperDork
Tim Baxter wrote:
I hear he has a small nuclear reactor under the hood of that behemoth. There was some talk of clean coal, but nobody could come up with a good plan to keep the fire stoked--midget firemen with high-level security clearances are in short supply. So to speak.
I think the little packets of concentrated radioactive toxic sludge with "PLEASE BURY" written on them the Clean Coal powertrain would drop were a security risk
On a serious note, a nuclear reactor wouldn't surprise me. It could have multiple electric engines and would never need to stop for fuel...and probably never stop for maintenance within it's service life.
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Jan. 21, 2009 8:49 a.m. GameboyRMH SuperDork
oldopelguy wrote:
GameboyRMH wrote: I argued that the best engine for this would be a carbed diesel - it would be invulnerable to EMP attacks or anything like that, no worry about wires being severed or connectors being knocked loose in a bomb attack, and with no ignition or EFI systems (especially with multiple carbs) it would be dead reliable (although a nightmare to tune and a gas guzzler even by armored vehicle standards).
Surely you meant to type "mechanical fuel pump" instead of "carb" because you knew that diesels don't have carbs, right? And yes, a mechanical fuel pump diesel would have those advantages.
D'oh yeah that's what I meant...that's what I get for posting in a hurry...
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Jan. 21, 2009 9:23 a.m. wherethefmi2000 Reader
In reply to nutherjrfan: I used to wait tables in DC where do you work and I've seen multiple convoys and the helicopter out on occasion (within minutes) they speed and use multiple forms of deception, for safety. I was a courier too and almost got runover a couple times LOL
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Jan. 21, 2009 9:30 a.m. ignorant PowerDork
Hummers are now electronic injection. I bet it's turbo direct injected. A mechanical injected naturally aspirated diesel would not move that pig at sufficent speeds.
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Jan. 21, 2009 9:49 a.m. wherethefmi2000 Reader
It is more than likely diesel (ease of fueling abroad) probably jp8 or something similar and we have some nice and powerful engines that are mechanically injected, albiet they are turbocharged. I had a 10000lb humvee I could peel tires in
No of course we didn't mess with them, I would never dream of modifying military equiptment
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Jan. 21, 2009 10:11 a.m. Jensenman UltimaDork
Discovery had a show about Air Force One the other night and they mentioned the Bushmobile. It's called 'The Beast' and there are a few of them. They showed one of them being loaded onto a C17, when it hit the dropdown rear ramp the whole damn plane moved.
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Jan. 21, 2009 10:19 a.m. ignorant PowerDork
wherethefmi2000 wrote:
It is more than likely diesel (ease of fueling abroad) probably jp8 or something similar and we have some nice and powerful engines that are mechanically injected, albiet they are turbocharged. I had a 10000lb humvee I could peel tires in
No of course we didn't mess with them, I would never dream of modifying military equiptment
They bring their own fuel. To make sure it is secure. We pay tons of money to ship gas and diesel all over the world to make sure it is secure.
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Jan. 21, 2009 1:17 p.m. 914Driver Dork
Duuuuuude.....
Time to trade up.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/1003/914Dan/?action=view¤t=president_c...
