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  • Wally

    Oct. 21, 2011 9:56 a.m. Wally SuperDork

    The could call it Flea baggers, Tea baggers and D baggers.

  • Otto Maddox

    Oct. 21, 2011 10:00 a.m. Otto Maddox Dork

    Wow. You summed it quite succinctly and correctly.

  • AngryCorvair

    Oct. 21, 2011 10:18 a.m. AngryCorvair SuperDork

    Wally wrote:

    The could call it Flea baggers, Tea baggers and D baggers.

    i heart wally, a lot.

  • HiTempguy

    Oct. 21, 2011 10:36 a.m. HiTempguy Dork

    tuna55 wrote:

    Sounds like things have gotten worse from that perspective pretty easily.

    As I pointed out to my father, the price for a condo/apartment similiar to his first one has quadrupled since he was my age in the city I grew up in. Just as I had to, he busted ass in a few E36 M3ty jobs (mine were admittingly better paying when adjusted for time/inflation, but I was also saving for school which he did not). He got a job as a power engineer out at a local plant earning $50k per year back in 1990.

    I went and got an education (2 years) and since our local community college isn't really technology/engineering orientated, I had to go live on my own to attend the big Tech college in our capitol. So, $20k in debt later, I started out at $45k per year. Hmmmmmm, there seems to be a discrepancy here. He still would argue with me until he was blue in the face that we have the opportunity to earn more money than him, even with the facts all laid out.

    The cost of the education isn't really the point, just that as a smart, educated person, I get paid WAY less than he did and he started with zip for experience and had to take two months of night schooling for his 4th class.

  • Tom Heath

    Oct. 21, 2011 1:36 p.m. Tom Heath Web Manager

    AngryCorvair wrote:

    Xceler8x wrote:

    But we can see the trend of the 1% gaining in wealth while the 99% remain stagnant.

    can someone please tell me where the division between the 99% and the 1% is? i need to know if i'm one of us or one of them.

    Are you kidding? If you were one of them, we'd ALL know it. Every time you posted, it would be in sparkly letters and someone, somewhere would get a job.

    Here's a chart that may or may not be true.

  • Cone_Junky

    Oct. 21, 2011 2:04 p.m. Cone_Junky HalfDork

    In reply to HiTempguy:

    When our parents (and some on this board) went to college it was subsidized about 70% from the gov't. I think it is closer to 25% now (if that).

    It is a completely different world for current students. That is why so many more younger graduates have absurd student loans compared to previous generations. But the older crowd think they are just whiners because they had no problems when they went to college 120 frickin years ago. Tuition rises at a much faster rate than inflation. Most industries get more efficient and productive as time passes and can keep up with inflation, education doesn't.

    http://www.npr.org/2011/10/19/141505658/why-is-college-so-expensive

    "If you are a veteran of a public university, the jump in tuition at your alma mater might be downright jaw-dropping. Tuition at the University of California, Berkeley, was about $700 a year back in the 1970s. Today, U.C. Berkeley students have to fork over around $15,000 per year. That's a 2,000 percent increase."

  • HiTempguy

    Oct. 21, 2011 2:40 p.m. HiTempguy Dork

    Cone_Junky wrote: Tuition at the University of California, Berkeley, was about $700 a year back in the 1970s. Today, U.C. Berkeley students have to fork over around $15,000 per year. That's a 2,000 percent increase."

    The worst thing is, where is all of that money going? I still buy all of my own texts, writing utensils, papers, computers, printers, etc. Last I checked, I sat in a classroom where an instructor taught on a whiteboard/overheads and the miniature industrial processes were all paid/sponsored by industry.

  • AngryCorvair

    Oct. 21, 2011 2:44 p.m. AngryCorvair SuperDork

    Tom Heath wrote:

    AngryCorvair wrote:

    Xceler8x wrote:

    But we can see the trend of the 1% gaining in wealth while the 99% remain stagnant.

    can someone please tell me where the division between the 99% and the 1% is? i need to know if i'm one of us or one of them.

    Are you kidding? If you were one of them, we'd ALL know it. Every time you posted, it would be in sparkly letters and someone, somewhere would get a job.

    Here's a chart that may or may not be true.

    where's the semi-sparkly font? Advanced Cooling Therapy LLC has created one full-time job in MI so far (no, not mine), and we're working on more.

  • ThePhranc

    Oct. 21, 2011 2:50 p.m. ThePhranc Reader

    HiTempguy wrote:

    Cone_Junky wrote: Tuition at the University of California, Berkeley, was about $700 a year back in the 1970s. Today, U.C. Berkeley students have to fork over around $15,000 per year. That's a 2,000 percent increase."

    The worst thing is, where is all of that money going? I still buy all of my own texts, writing utensils, papers, computers, printers, etc. Last I checked, I sat in a classroom where an instructor taught on a whiteboard/overheads and the miniature industrial processes were all paid/sponsored by industry.

    It goes to pay for paper pushers and high style dining facilities and fancy apt. style dorms.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/?s=higher+education

    Lots of reading about higher education.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/?s=higher+education

    I think you asked me for the link before.

  • Otto Maddox

    Oct. 21, 2011 2:54 p.m. Otto Maddox Dork

    In reply to ThePhranc:

    Georgia Tech in the early 1990s still had dorms without any form of air conditioning. I bet they all have cable TV and everything now. Damn whippersnappers.

  • Xceler8x

    Oct. 21, 2011 3:08 p.m. Xceler8x SuperDork

    Wally wrote:

    I guess the revolution will be televised after all The Real World: Occupy Wall Street

    Great. This should end well....

  • Cone_Junky

    Oct. 21, 2011 3:08 p.m. Cone_Junky HalfDork

    Otto Maddox wrote:

    In reply to ThePhranc:

    Georgia Tech in the early 1990s still had dorms without any form of air conditioning. I bet they all have cable TV and everything now. Damn whippersnappers.

    For a 2000% increase, I would expect a kegerator and free prostitutes included too.

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