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  • Taiden

    Jan. 19, 2012 8:19 a.m. Taiden SuperDork

    Every time the thermostat kicks in, this thing makes noises that sound like a submarine being crushed under pressure. It wakes me up every time it does it, and it's absurdly loud.

    I haven't lived in a house with a hot water radiator for a while, but I do recall the occasional groan and whine.

    Is this typical?

  • 1988RedT2

    Jan. 19, 2012 8:37 a.m. 1988RedT2 SuperDork

    My grandma's house had them. I recall they can be pretty loud.

  • mad_machine

    Jan. 19, 2012 8:38 a.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    sounds like an airpocket somewhere in the system

  • N Sperlo

    Jan. 19, 2012 8:42 a.m. N Sperlo SuperDork

    There is usually a resonator in there to catch the air pocket, so there's no banging. I was looking at a house a while back with one. It attaches near the boiler.

  • Gearheadotaku

    Jan. 19, 2012 8:52 a.m. Gearheadotaku SuperDork

    since you mentioned dorm, maint is probably rather lax. Sounds like air in the system. Expansion under heat also possible source of noise.

  • Twin_Cam

    Jan. 19, 2012 8:54 a.m. Twin_Cam SuperDork

    Most have a bleed valve on the top of them somewhere, to let air out. But usually, you need a special key-type thing to open it, and the school probably wouldn't be wild about you doing that yourself.

  • 1988RedT2

    Jan. 19, 2012 9:08 a.m. 1988RedT2 SuperDork

    N Sperlo wrote:

    There is usually a resonator in there to catch the air pocket, so there's no banging. I was looking at a house a while back with one. It attaches near the boiler.

    Dude! It's a dorm. There's going to be banging.

  • carguy123

    Jan. 19, 2012 10:00 a.m. carguy123 SuperDork

    Dude! It's a dorm. There's going to be banging.

    Not when I was in college. It was strictly one sex dorms and if you were caught banging in the dorm you were kicked out of school.

  • 93EXCivic

    Jan. 19, 2012 10:02 a.m. 93EXCivic SuperDork

    carguy123 wrote:

    Dude! It's a dorm. There's going to be banging.

    Not when I was in college. It was strictly one sex dorms and if you were caught banging in the dorm you were kicked out of school.

    The good old days suddenly don't seem so good.

  • 92CelicaHalfTrac

    Jan. 19, 2012 10:03 a.m. 92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork

    Weird, we shared bathrooms in our co-ed dorm.

  • MG Bryan

    Jan. 19, 2012 10:04 a.m. MG Bryan HalfDork

    carguy123 wrote:

    Dude! It's a dorm. There's going to be banging.

    Not when I was in college. It was strictly one sex dorms and if you were caught banging in the dorm you were kicked out of school.

    Did you go to BYU or something? It was requested that no one had sex in the showers in my freshman dorm, but I don't even think was a rule. The RA and AF were required to have condoms to give out.

  • Jay

    Jan. 19, 2012 10:07 a.m. Jay SuperDork

    I have radiators in my apartment and they are DEAD silent. How old are these things?

  • Jan. 19, 2012 10:14 a.m. fasted58 SuperDork

    Being on a college campus are you sure that it is a hot water boiler and not steam? Water hammer from steam can drive ya nuts.

  • MG Bryan

    Jan. 19, 2012 10:14 a.m. MG Bryan HalfDork

    Jay wrote:

    I have radiators in my apartment and they are DEAD silent. How old are these things?

    I bet your apartment is better maintained than most college dorms.

  • carguy123

    Jan. 19, 2012 10:56 a.m. carguy123 SuperDork

    MG Bryan wrote:

    carguy123 wrote:

    Dude! It's a dorm. There's going to be banging.

    Not when I was in college. It was strictly one sex dorms and if you were caught banging in the dorm you were kicked out of school.

    Did you go to BYU or something? It was requested that no one had sex in the showers in my freshman dorm, but I don't even think was a rule. The RA and AF were required to have condoms to give out.

    Not back in the day. Coed dorms were a thing of the future and RAs even looked out for people from other floors in the dorm being on the wrong floor.

  • Taiden

    Jan. 19, 2012 10:57 a.m. Taiden SuperDork

    It could definitely be steam. I'm not well versed on heating systems. It doesn't look like the typical "monster" looking looped radiators.

  • Jan. 19, 2012 11:59 a.m. fasted58 SuperDork

    In reply to Taiden:

    If it is a steam system, which I believe it is, the t-stat when satisfied will close a solenoid shutoff valve to the rad or supply piping. Steam when deadheaded in a pipe, valve etc. will start to condense as it cools. A single drop of condensate when caught up in the inrush of steam (100 mph kinda inrush) will cause the water hammer as the drop hits any obstruction as pipe fittings, coil etc.... yea, a single drop. If you leave the t-stat turned up so the valve doesn't close I bet the hammer stops.

    Any large campus will have a central steam boiler where high pressure steam is piped to individual buildings and pressure reduced to operating pressure at point of use, a quarter mile or more is not uncommon. Not much you can do to eliminate the condensate (and hammer) at the rad inlet unless there is a bypass around the rad to the trap, which you ain't got.

  • RossD

    Jan. 19, 2012 12:05 p.m. RossD SuperDork

    Beer. Drink 3-4 beers before you go to bed. You'll probably wont wake up from the noise. If you do, increase the dosage.

  • Taiden

    Jan. 19, 2012 12:22 p.m. Taiden SuperDork

    fasted58 wrote:

    In reply to Taiden:

    If it is a steam system, which I believe it is, the t-stat when satisfied will close a solenoid shutoff valve to the rad or supply piping. Steam when deadheaded in a pipe, valve etc. will start to condense as it cools. A single drop of condensate when caught up in the inrush of steam (100 mph kinda inrush) will cause the water hammer as the drop hits any obstruction as pipe fittings, coil etc.... yea, a single drop. If you leave the t-stat turned up so the valve doesn't close I bet the hammer stops.

    Any large campus will have a central steam boiler where high pressure steam is piped to individual buildings and pressure reduced to operating pressure at point of use, a quarter mile or more is not uncommon. Not much you can do to eliminate the condensate (and hammer) at the rad inlet unless there is a bypass around the rad to the trap, which you ain't got.

    And this is why I love GRM

 
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