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914Driver wrote:slefain wrote:Dr. Hess wrote:My neighbor sez: "If they have cat eyes, kill 'em." I can't tell from your pic if they are cat eyes or round.
What if it only has one eye?
My wife call the one eyed snake "Pokey".
The one eyed viper!.........(cue cello music)
(bad Greaseman reference)
The Green Mamba is African, does NOT belong here. But then, wildlife experts think we have a population of over 100,000 pythons in the Everglades. Escaped, released pets turned loose in snake heaven. Some are real monsters, over 20' long. Not cute like a garter snake.
This makes me wonder if it is good or not that I haven't moved to florida, yet.
My neighbor spends most of his time in a c_anoe on the river. He is always killing cottonmouths and leaving them in his driveway to show everyone else. My creek runs through his property before mine. He's pretty mellow, but I wouldn't call him "pansy" to his face. I kinda have a feeling he could snap in a second.
I'm sure all you snake-lovers would love to save the cottonmouths. Come on over and you can have all you can carry. And take the copperheads with you too. I just give them a bullet and let the 'coons eat free.
Lesley wrote:Found a great big ball of garter snakes out in the woods while horse-riding one time... apparently they breed in late summer and have a great big old orgy. It was kinda... interesting.
I was about to ask if anybody had seen a big cluster of garter snakes.
Hasbro wrote: A lot of snakes have a very mild toxin that scientists weren't aware of until fairly recently.
I read that recently, how interesting!
yeah from the pic looks like one or another variant of the common garter snake.
eats little stuff. bugs, lizards, frogs, what have you. Generally appreciated by gardeners (and often mistakenly called a "gardener snake" for that reason).
Dr. Hess wrote:My neighbor spends most of his time in a c_anoe on the river. He is always killing cottonmouths and leaving them in his driveway to show everyone else. My creek runs through his property before mine. He's pretty mellow, but I wouldn't call him "pansy" to his face. I kinda have a feeling he could snap in a second.
I'm sure all you snake-lovers would love to save the cottonmouths. Come on over and you can have all you can carry. And take the copperheads with you too. I just give them a bullet and let the 'coons eat free.
Im not a snake lover, in particular, though I do like them. If a venomous snake was in a tent with me, I may just kill it. But otherwise, I dont feel to threatened by them, I like predators, and they are about tops in there own field. I would bet my house that snakes, even cottonmouths, do far more good than they do harm. You have to do something really stupid to get bit by one. They dont seem to chase people down.
Joey
carguy123 wrote:I didn't know Green Mambas were over here. I thought they were an African snake.
And by "over here", are you suggesting that Florida is part of the United States?
When I lived near Boca, half of the reptiles were from anywhere but. My backyard belonged to a 2 foot Cuba Anole, which is HUGE for a Cuban. The guy across the street had a bunch of Iguanas that were bigger. Etc., etc.
One of the largest reptile breeders conventions is in Orlando. Just amazing. The people are every bit as interesting as the animals, for sure!
According to http://littlerock.about.com/cs/nature/a/venomsnakes_2.htm ,
"Vertical pupils are common on most, not all, venomous snakes in Arkansas." So I guess my neighbor was right. Cat eyed, kill 'em.
And I just got a call from Dr.Linda saying she was over at the other house to service out the kitties and when she opened the garage door, a snake was laying there looking at her. Guess we'll see if it needs an accident when I get home.
Dr. Hess wrote:According to http://littlerock.about.com/cs/nature/a/venomsnakes_2.htm , "Vertical pupils are common on most, not all, venomous snakes in Arkansas." So I guess my neighbor was right. Cat eyed, kill 'em.
And I just got a call from Dr.Linda saying she was over at the other house to service out the kitties and when she opened the garage door, a snake was laying there looking at her. Guess we'll see if it needs an accident when I get home.
Why are you so afraid of venomous snakes?
Joey
Is it a garter snake?
Hasbro mentioned a Cuban Anole. I caught one of those a few years ago. Bled like a stuck pig. It lived, I screamed like a little girl. Blood all over the place. I still think they they are a beautiful lizard.
I'm not afraid of venomous snakes. I see them, they get a bullet, now they are a good venomous snake and we both go our separate ways.
Dr.L said it was black with a small head, not a broad head. I think it was a rat snake from her description and a couple web pages on snakes of AR. I couldn't find it in the garage yesterday afternoon, so it either was hiding real well or left.
I don't know much about snakes.... I recognize a black snake (color) when I see it and I generally can spot a rattle snake (noise...) the rest of those sons of b.....s are copper heads...
Dr. Hess wrote:Except you don't both go your seperate ways. You go your way, and then snakes dead. Unless your killing it for food, your killing it because your afraid of it. Unless you enjoy killing for the sake of killing.I'm not afraid of venomous snakes. I see them, they get a bullet, now they are a good venomous snake and we both go our separate ways.
Joey
joey48442 wrote:Unless you enjoy killing for the sake of killing. ....Dr. Hess wrote:Except you don't both go your seperate ways. You go your way, and then snakes dead. Unless your killing it for food, your killing it because your afraid of it.Unless you enjoy killing for the sake of killing.I'm not afraid of venomous snakes. I see them, they get a bullet, now they are a good venomous snake and we both go our separate ways.
Joey
ya that pretty much sums it up
Don't know-buddy had a dog need 2k worth of anti-venom to live when it was bit it its backyard. Combine that with the fact that the ex wife had an acquaintance almost die getting bit by a big rattler, and I think I would probably "permanently" remove any of the more poisonous ones. And I have no love for killin for the sake of killin!
MrJoshua wrote:Don't know-buddy had a dog need 2k worth of anti-venom to live when it was bit it its backyard. Combine that with the fact that the ex wife had an acquaintance almost die getting bit by a big rattler, and I think I would probably "permanently" remove any of the more poisonous ones. And I have no love for killin for the sake of killin!
Don't step on then is probably the best way to avoid getting bit. Everytime someone gets bit it's because they did something dumb, it seems to me. Same with bees/wasps/hornets. I've seen guys I think of as tough run and scream like girls over the bugs. (if your allergic that's different). You have do do something to them for them to want to sting you! My buddy the bee keeper says they seem to know they are goners if they sting you.
Joey
My buddy the bee keeper says they seem to know they are goners if they sting you.
Joey
that would be the honey bees.... the yellow jackets and I guess some / most of the others can sting you over and over....
and fwiw, if you've never run over a yellow jackets nest while cutting the grass.... then you wouldn't understand the running .... + your allergic reaction can change and you won't have any prior knowledge of that change
I no longer enjoy killing for killing's sake. I understand it, I consider almost all sport hunting to be it, I just don't do it anymore. I have dogs, cats and people here, and none of them are compatible with poisonous snakes. They get a bullet we we both go our own ways. I go back to the house and they go meet their snake maker.
Joey, uh, "just don't step on them" sounds like really good advice and all, but, uh, I think you need to get out more.
Growing up, the general rule was that poisonous snakes in the 3 acre mowed area got killed. If I was stomping around the other 57, I made sure to give them their distance.
Seemed fair to me.
joey48442 wrote:MrJoshua wrote:Don't know-buddy had a dog need 2k worth of anti-venom to live when it was bit it its backyard. Combine that with the fact that the ex wife had an acquaintance almost die getting bit by a big rattler, and I think I would probably "permanently" remove any of the more poisonous ones. And I have no love for killin for the sake of killin!
Don't step on then is probably the best way to avoid getting bit. Everytime someone gets bit it's because they did something dumb, it seems to me. Same with bees/wasps/hornets. I've seen guys I think of as tough run and scream like girls over the bugs. (if your allergic that's different). You have do do something to them for them to want to sting you! My buddy the bee keeper says they seem to know they are goners if they sting you.
Joey
Hard to teach a dog that amount of logic/rational thought. Or my 5 year old son, to some extent. I'm teaching him to never touch snakes ever unless I give him the okay, but he is 5 and he loves snakes.
Dr. Hess wrote:I no longer enjoy killing for killing's sake. I understand it, I consider almost all sport hunting to be it, I just don't do it anymore. I have dogs, cats and people here, and none of them are compatible with poisonous snakes. They get a bullet we we both go our own ways. I go back to the house and they go meet their snake maker.
Joey, uh, "just don't step on them" sounds like really good advice and all, but, uh, I think you need to get out more.
While I'm no expert on snakes, I am employed by a park that has reintroduced rattlers into the park. I get out plenty. We need all the predators we can get!
Joey
OUR SNAKES ARE BIGGER THAN YOURS!! From todays Sun Sentinel
WESTON - State officers are on the hunt for a wandering python that has been spotted near a residential section of Weston.
For about 30 minutes this afternoon, ending at 3:15 p.m., two state officials walked along a lake near the intersection of State Road 84 and Bonaventure Boulevard with snake-catcher sticks.One stooped to look between metal slats of the water-pumping station located there to see if the snake had slithered inside.
The target: a python that is thought to be at least 7 feet long. Maintenance crews at the water-pumping station have spotted the snake three times since Thursday.
The snake was seen Thursday morning, Friday morning and Monday morning, according to Ron Bergeron, of Weston, a member of the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.
Bergeron got a call this morning and brought the two officers to the lake to track the snake. They hope to catch it alive and bring it to the Wildlife Care Center in Fort Lauderdale, where it would be searched for an identifying chip and eventually killed.
"He could be anywhere," said Officer Bill Carpenter, as he walked along the banks, moving the brush with his stick. "He could be camouflaged in this stuff."
"If he's a Burmese python, he's gonna have an attitude," Carpenter added. The non-native snakes feast on small animals in the Everglades.
"Once they get past 6 feet long, they could take down anything," said Matt Hopp, Carpenter's fellow officer.
The search will resume at 8 a.m. Wednesday. Officers said they think the snake is spending mornings basking in the sun and would be more vulnerable to capture that time of day.
If the python winds up in a pool, the resident is asked to call 561-625-5122 and refrain from approaching it.
